RE: "The first person to live to [200, 300, 500, 1000] has already been born"
December 14, 2015 at 3:50 pm
(December 14, 2015 at 3:22 pm)Amine Wrote:1. I know. That's why I said it concerns all of us. There's no disagreement here, just a misunderstanding, except for the part where you wrongly said that it's bigoted to say that of old people. It's not. As things are, unless we change that, we'll all get to be old, and so the idiots who dismiss the death of old people as less important are really talking about their own too, ultimately.
(December 14, 2015 at 7:55 am)excitedpenguin Wrote: You can't really say it's bigoted since everyone is going to have to get old at some point. That's why it concerns all of us though.
But the matter is about finding a technology that would change the fact that everyone is going to get old at some point. By analogy, what if it were legal to abuse and kill people over 85 years old, simply because they are old? That's not how it works. Murder is murder because people are people. Many have made their principles clear in saying they think it is right for people to die when they are old, despite the current lack of practical application.
(December 14, 2015 at 10:10 am)excitedpenguin Wrote: Nice essay, I liked it. One thing, though. Don't be so dismissive of A.I. I recommend you read the book Superintelligence by Nick Bostrom.
Thanks. I've read and listen to some stuff by Bostrom (and others in his camp) but I'm still fairly agnostic about AI. Another good viewpoint is elucidated here by David Deutsch: https://aeon.co/essays/how-close-are-we-...telligence
Excerpt: "I do not highlight all these philosophical issues because I fear that AGIs will be invented before we have developed the philosophical sophistication to understand them and to integrate them into civilisation. It is for almost the opposite reason: I am convinced that the whole problem of developing AGIs is a matter of philosophy, not computer science or neurophysiology, and that the philosophical progress that is essential to their future integration is also a prerequisite for developing them in the first place."
So you're saying you read his book, then? If not, do read it. It's more than worth your time, I assure you.