(December 28, 2015 at 2:30 pm)Delicate Wrote:(December 28, 2015 at 6:18 am)downbeatplumb Wrote: Have I gone around being an expert on Christianity? I don't think I have! I have read the shitty tome that is the bible but I would not colour myself an expert, I'm not an expert on Hinduism, Buddhism or any of the other myth based fantasies that people believe in either. When people introduce supernatural things into a thing I tend to put them all in the same box marked bullshit, show one thing that has ever in the history of the world been proved in scientifically verified tests to have a supernatural cause and I'll revisit it.Don't worry, atheism falls into my bullshit category so I know what you mean.
Oh and god has to either be somewhere or nowhere so I take this as an admission on your part that god is non-existent.
But from your demand for evidence I take it your a devotee of scientism.
And from your implication that if something exists it has to exist somewhere, I take it you're a materialist.
Both views are unjustified at best and false at worse.
Once you get rid of these myths, you can ask more sensible questions about God.
Can you explain why you believe them?
Ok so I believe in things that can be proven, you believe in things that can't, but to you my way of sorting reality from crap by demanding evidence or proof is somehow wrong. You do know that in the whole of history there has only ever been one way to separate what we assume to be true from reality, one way and only one way to distinguish between how we would like things to be and how they really are and that method is science. If things cannot be tested by the scientific method than you have no way to determine whether they are a real thing or not. Now add to that that I think that the idea of a god is really really stupid, begging so many questions and not providing anything of value to any part of how we view reality. Now imagine that and there are millions of people who not only believe things that can't be shown to exist but these same beliefs are actively retarding progress both scientifically and socially.
Some sensible questions about god coming up.
1: What is god made of
2: what does it look like
3: What was the process it used to bring reality into being.
4: Where did it get the materials.
5: Explain how a being who can apparently exist without any dimensions including time can be said to exist.
Those will do for a start.
Can I explain why I believe what? that part of your post was just hanging at the end with no real explanation.
You can fix ignorance, you can't fix stupid.
Tinkety Tonk and down with the Nazis.