(January 16, 2016 at 7:56 pm)wallym Wrote:(January 15, 2016 at 7:10 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: People have various views of right or wrong, but the fact they have views of it, says they all believe there is right or wrong. Now obviously we aren't going about the right way to discover objectively what we ought to praise or condemn, but, for sure, people would not have the view of right or wrong without belief that objective moral facts exist.
Perhaps, we are programmed to believe in things that aren't real?
Or perhaps we been given knowledge of unseen pleasures and a path. What is delusional about you having a value independant of what you think of yourself. What is it that will make it a delusion? Is that it requires a Creator, a source of the value, or maintainer or one who sees you or is that the feeling one day we will see who we truly are something that makes it false? Or is that we must have a soul that makes it an illusion?