(March 23, 2016 at 12:16 pm)Rhondazvous Wrote:(March 18, 2016 at 10:32 am)Brian37 Wrote: Deist aren't any better, neither are pantheists, those are simply watered down woo where the gap answer tries to avoid the divisions the old woo does, but it is still a gap answer. It is simply better logic to accept that our gods and religions were not around 4 billion years ago, or 14 billion years ago, and there is no need to gap fill with old religion or even a generic deity. The universe did fine prior to our existence and it will continue on long after we go extinct. We CAN as a species be positive about our ability, IF IF IF, we pull our collective heads out of our asses, we can be positive about finding ways to extend our finite ride.Atheism is not something that one has to accept, anymore than one has to accept that two plus two equals four. Theists ask us to accept their god. We say no and that is that. If they can't prove god, then we have nothing to prove.
There simply is no going back for me while I retain my lucid state, while my marbles are in tact, to go back to believing in sky wizards. I know too much about the size of our universe, to think that our god's or religions we create are important to the universe. It was understandable when humans didn't know any better that they made such bad guesses, but we know better now.
That's pretty much where I am, Rhonda. I didn't "choose" to not believe, I didn't decide to "accept" anything. I just realized that what I had claimed to believe made no freaking sense. And I just couldn't send myself through "what if" mental hoops anymore. So if someone gets in my face, wanting me to accept their belief, they need to provide something substantial - no personal relationship, no fantasies, no apologetics and most certainly no book - just get that Deity to come by and prove it exists and I'll change my mind. Until then . . . makes no sense, I'm not buying it.
"The family that prays together...is brainwashing their children."- Albert Einstein