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Immigration
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RE: Immigration
(March 30, 2011 at 7:25 am)tackattack Wrote: I don't usually stray into the political waters but I thought I'd vomit up some thoughts.

What are you opinions on the US immigration process. I think it's broken. My real question though is twofold
I would say that the immigration process for becoming a US citizen is broken in the sense that it's far too obtuse and difficult for anyone to get into the US.
It's also too easy to get into the US illegally. This dynamic needs to be switched.

(March 30, 2011 at 7:25 am)tackattack Wrote: 1) Why would you want to move into a Country because it espouses "freedom" and "equality" and in the process of petitioning directly attack the sense of patriotism of said country? Doesn't that seem counterproductive? I mean as humans, why do we have the need to spead out into a new cultral territory and make that territory more like where we came from? I appreciate diversity and cultral recognition, but why do we need terms like xxxxxxx-american? If you were born in America, or are a nationalized citizen, wouldn't you just be american? I understand that a persons culture and heritage are important to the crux of who they are, but if you're going to change the culture of the territory you move to, why move? Is opportunity worth sacrificing a little personal pride and public heritage (not private)? Is there a cost/ sacrifice for moving to the US? Should there be?
Just people people move to the US and want to become a US citizen, doesn't mean they want to spurn their heritage. Many immigrants like having their cake and eating it too - and they can. Being called an islamo-american or african american or japanese-american is saying is simultaneously respecting where they're from and who they are. There's no shame in that.

(March 30, 2011 at 7:25 am)tackattack Wrote: 2) What's the big deal about border enforcement? If someone breaks into your house with the intent to make it their own, and you had a gun, wouldn't you shoot them? In my opinion do it all the way or not at all, stop half assing everything. Opinions?
Shooting people for trying to find a better life for themselves is immoral, but better border security means better internal security for the US as well in terms of law enforcement. More protections against illegal contraband coming into the US illegally is always welcome.
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Immigration - by tackattack - March 30, 2011 at 7:25 am
RE: Immigration - by theVOID - March 30, 2011 at 7:28 am
RE: Immigration - by padraic - March 30, 2011 at 9:39 pm
RE: Immigration - by KichigaiNeko - March 31, 2011 at 2:04 am
RE: Immigration - by Anomalocaris - March 31, 2011 at 11:02 am
RE: Immigration - by lilphil1989 - March 30, 2011 at 8:16 am
RE: Immigration - by Violet - March 31, 2011 at 2:51 am
RE: Immigration - by Ubermensch - March 30, 2011 at 8:36 am
RE: Immigration - by tackattack - March 30, 2011 at 9:50 am
RE: Immigration - by ib.me.ub - March 30, 2011 at 9:58 am
RE: Immigration - by Skipper - March 30, 2011 at 10:53 am
RE: Immigration - by tackattack - March 30, 2011 at 11:11 am
RE: Immigration - by Skipper - March 30, 2011 at 12:47 pm
RE: Immigration - by Anomalocaris - March 30, 2011 at 2:31 pm
RE: Immigration - by Minimalist - March 30, 2011 at 11:35 am
RE: Immigration - by Jaysyn - March 31, 2011 at 5:00 pm
RE: Immigration - by TheDarkestOfAngels - March 30, 2011 at 11:43 am
RE: Immigration - by fr0d0 - March 30, 2011 at 2:15 pm
RE: Immigration - by HeyItsZeus - March 30, 2011 at 7:46 pm
RE: Immigration - by Dotard - March 30, 2011 at 8:22 pm
RE: Immigration - by everythingafter - March 30, 2011 at 9:48 pm
RE: Immigration - by Violet - March 31, 2011 at 1:52 am
RE: Immigration - by Minimalist - March 31, 2011 at 2:26 am
RE: Immigration - by tackattack - March 31, 2011 at 6:59 am
RE: Immigration - by Shell B - March 31, 2011 at 11:16 am
RE: Immigration - by tackattack - March 31, 2011 at 12:17 pm
RE: Immigration - by Shell B - March 31, 2011 at 12:23 pm
RE: Immigration - by tackattack - March 31, 2011 at 12:30 pm
RE: Immigration - by Shell B - March 31, 2011 at 12:35 pm
RE: Immigration - by tackattack - March 31, 2011 at 12:45 pm
RE: Immigration - by Shell B - March 31, 2011 at 12:49 pm
RE: Immigration - by Anomalocaris - March 31, 2011 at 12:50 pm
RE: Immigration - by Minimalist - March 31, 2011 at 12:56 pm
RE: Immigration - by tackattack - March 31, 2011 at 1:01 pm
RE: Immigration - by Skipper - March 31, 2011 at 1:04 pm
RE: Immigration - by Shell B - March 31, 2011 at 1:09 pm
RE: Immigration - by tackattack - March 31, 2011 at 1:51 pm
RE: Immigration - by Welsh cake - March 31, 2011 at 2:06 pm
RE: Immigration - by Minimalist - March 31, 2011 at 3:59 pm
RE: Immigration - by tackattack - March 31, 2011 at 7:38 pm
RE: Immigration - by Minimalist - March 31, 2011 at 7:48 pm
RE: Immigration - by tackattack - April 1, 2011 at 7:01 am
RE: Immigration - by Violet - April 1, 2011 at 11:31 am
RE: Immigration - by Minimalist - April 1, 2011 at 11:59 am
RE: Immigration - by Anomalocaris - April 1, 2011 at 12:17 pm
RE: Immigration - by tackattack - April 2, 2011 at 10:13 am
RE: Immigration - by Violet - April 2, 2011 at 1:15 pm
RE: Immigration - by tackattack - April 2, 2011 at 3:29 pm
RE: Immigration - by Violet - April 2, 2011 at 5:34 pm
RE: Immigration - by tackattack - April 3, 2011 at 7:27 am

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