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Thinking about infinity
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RE: Thinking about infinity
Just as an aside:

When we use the concept of infinity in mathematics, it is usually employed as a limit. We allow a number to tend towards infinity, and we see what effect that has.

For example, 1/n tends towards zero as n tends towards infinity.

The technical way of writing this is:

For any positive number k, we can find a number m so that 1/n < k for all n >= m (greater than or equal to)

[In general we would use |1/n| which means to ignore any negative values, but we know in this case, dealing with positive values of n, 1/n is always positive anyway.]

In other words, however small we want the value of 1/n to be, we can find a point so that the values of 1/n that follow are all below that number. It gets arbitrarily close to zero, and so we say that it becomes zero as the limit is taken of n=> infinity.

It's important that all values of 1/n are below this value of k after this point we find, or else we might be dealing with an oscillating function that jumps in and out of the required zone.

This value of m can be easily found:

We want 1/n < k

Multiply by n to give 1 < nk

Divide by k to give 1/k < n

Turning that around gives n > 1/k

So the value of m will be the first whole number greater than 1/k. Let's say k = 0.000001 (a millionth). Then we need

n > 1/0.000001

n > 1,000,000

So 1/n < 0.000001 for all n >= 1,000,001

Did that make any sense to those not familiar with the subject? Smile
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Thinking about infinity - by Ignorant - April 27, 2016 at 7:08 am
RE: Thinking about infinity - by Alex K - April 27, 2016 at 7:49 am
RE: Thinking about infinity - by Ignorant - April 27, 2016 at 10:43 am
RE: Thinking about infinity - by SteveII - April 27, 2016 at 11:30 am
RE: Thinking about infinity - by Ignorant - April 27, 2016 at 12:03 pm
RE: Thinking about infinity - by SteveII - April 27, 2016 at 12:30 pm
RE: Thinking about infinity - by Ignorant - April 28, 2016 at 4:01 am
RE: Thinking about infinity - by TheRealJoeFish - April 27, 2016 at 12:16 pm
RE: Thinking about infinity - by Ignorant - April 27, 2016 at 12:21 pm
RE: Thinking about infinity - by Whateverist - April 27, 2016 at 8:04 am
RE: Thinking about infinity - by Alex K - April 27, 2016 at 8:23 am
RE: Thinking about infinity - by Whateverist - April 27, 2016 at 8:26 am
RE: Thinking about infinity - by robvalue - April 27, 2016 at 8:52 am
RE: Thinking about infinity - by SteveII - April 27, 2016 at 9:33 am
RE: Thinking about infinity - by vorlon13 - April 27, 2016 at 9:37 am
RE: Thinking about infinity - by SteveII - April 27, 2016 at 9:41 am
RE: Thinking about infinity - by Alex K - April 27, 2016 at 9:42 am
RE: Thinking about infinity - by SteveII - April 27, 2016 at 9:48 am
RE: Thinking about infinity - by SteveII - April 27, 2016 at 9:49 am
RE: Thinking about infinity - by Excited Penguin - April 27, 2016 at 10:03 am
RE: Thinking about infinity - by Ignorant - April 27, 2016 at 10:45 am
RE: Thinking about infinity - by Excited Penguin - April 27, 2016 at 11:03 am
RE: Thinking about infinity - by Ignorant - April 27, 2016 at 12:00 pm
RE: Thinking about infinity - by RoadRunner79 - April 27, 2016 at 12:34 pm
RE: Thinking about infinity - by Excited Penguin - April 28, 2016 at 12:18 am
RE: Thinking about infinity - by RoadRunner79 - April 28, 2016 at 8:44 am
RE: Thinking about infinity - by robvalue - April 27, 2016 at 10:30 am
RE: Thinking about infinity - by TheRealJoeFish - April 27, 2016 at 10:42 am
RE: Thinking about infinity - by robvalue - April 27, 2016 at 10:47 am
RE: Thinking about infinity - by Ignorant - April 27, 2016 at 10:52 am
RE: Thinking about infinity - by robvalue - April 27, 2016 at 10:59 am
RE: Thinking about infinity - by Ignorant - April 27, 2016 at 11:59 am
RE: Thinking about infinity - by robvalue - April 27, 2016 at 12:04 pm
RE: Thinking about infinity - by Ignorant - April 27, 2016 at 12:05 pm
RE: Thinking about infinity - by robvalue - April 27, 2016 at 12:10 pm
RE: Thinking about infinity - by Ignorant - April 28, 2016 at 4:14 am
RE: Thinking about infinity - by Alex K - April 27, 2016 at 12:20 pm
RE: Thinking about infinity - by TheRealJoeFish - April 27, 2016 at 1:08 pm
RE: Thinking about infinity - by Ignorant - April 28, 2016 at 4:00 am
RE: Thinking about infinity - by Alex K - April 28, 2016 at 4:54 pm
RE: Thinking about infinity - by robvalue - April 28, 2016 at 4:44 am
RE: Thinking about infinity - by Ignorant - April 28, 2016 at 5:09 am
RE: Thinking about infinity - by Time Traveler - April 28, 2016 at 4:08 pm
RE: Thinking about infinity - by robvalue - April 28, 2016 at 5:48 am
RE: Thinking about infinity - by Ignorant - April 28, 2016 at 7:31 am
RE: Thinking about infinity - by SteveII - April 28, 2016 at 7:02 am
RE: Thinking about infinity - by Ignorant - April 28, 2016 at 7:51 am
RE: Thinking about infinity - by LastPoet - April 28, 2016 at 8:04 am
RE: Thinking about infinity - by Ignorant - April 28, 2016 at 8:06 am
RE: Thinking about infinity - by LastPoet - April 28, 2016 at 8:10 am
RE: Thinking about infinity - by Ignorant - April 28, 2016 at 8:14 am
RE: Thinking about infinity - by LastPoet - April 28, 2016 at 8:05 am
RE: Thinking about infinity - by LastPoet - April 28, 2016 at 8:06 am
RE: Thinking about infinity - by LastPoet - April 28, 2016 at 8:21 am
RE: Thinking about infinity - by robvalue - April 28, 2016 at 9:04 am
RE: Thinking about infinity - by RoadRunner79 - April 28, 2016 at 10:01 am
RE: Thinking about infinity - by TheRealJoeFish - April 28, 2016 at 10:42 am
RE: Thinking about infinity - by RoadRunner79 - April 28, 2016 at 2:16 pm
RE: Thinking about infinity - by SteveII - April 28, 2016 at 12:01 pm
RE: Thinking about infinity - by dyresand - April 28, 2016 at 6:50 pm
RE: Thinking about infinity - by Alex K - April 29, 2016 at 12:53 am
RE: Thinking about infinity - by Alex K - May 3, 2016 at 5:07 am
RE: Thinking about infinity - by robvalue - April 29, 2016 at 3:59 am
RE: Thinking about infinity - by Wryetui - May 2, 2016 at 6:28 pm
RE: Thinking about infinity - by bennyboy - May 2, 2016 at 7:58 pm
RE: Thinking about infinity - by Alex K - May 3, 2016 at 3:17 am
RE: Thinking about infinity - by robvalue - May 3, 2016 at 2:21 am
RE: Thinking about infinity - by robvalue - May 3, 2016 at 3:22 am
RE: Thinking about infinity - by robvalue - May 3, 2016 at 3:55 am

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