Reduced to a Piece of Clay: False Humility and Human Dignity

[Drich]

Do you honestly think, man is the only sentient being on this planet?
Many would argue Dolphins, elephants, primates, even Dogs all to one degree or another can check these very same attributes of this list, yet every single one of those animals are subject and have been subjugated to man's will in one way or another.

So then how are we to them any different than what you are saying God sees us?


how so?

Yes, human's have a double standard and do not always treat others the way we want to be treated.  But when you plays tu quoque you demonstrate that the nature of your god is no better than the nature of humans.

-Or-
what I am doing is showing you that the behavior you are trying to vilify in of itself is 'morally' neutral. Meaning is not a good or intrinsically bad behavior. it is the details or the abuse of power that makes this behavior wicked. Inturn if an all knowing all powerful being who loved us pushed us though this process and we came out truly more happy on the other end, then this 'sculpting' process can be considered a 'good' thing.

Take for instance a Dog. a natural/wild dog is not something you want in your house while you and your children sleep, but a tame or even a well trained dog can be much more than just a pet. He can be a member of the family.
Now a wild dog may not think he wants to live a tame dog's life, but at the same time if he is given or knows of both lives the dog will choose the easier life. What this means is just because we tame an animal (subjugate it and provide a role for it) does not mean this is a bad thing for the animal. The animal may truly enjoy the role we have for it. Like wise an all knowing all powerful God knows exactly what we are designed and purposed to do. I can personally say there is no greater joy/sense of contentment than full filling the role we are created to do. It's like being a parent (yes it is hard even objectionable at times) but for those of us built to be parents their is no greater rewarding job than to be a parent. Some even feel or endure great loss when they they can not full fill a perceived roll.

This is what your passage in romans is describing. The roles we have been given and God's authority to give us such roles.