RE: No such thing as a "true" Christian
April 27, 2011 at 8:08 am
(This post was last modified: April 27, 2011 at 8:10 am by reverendjeremiah.)
Surely person B would go to heaven according to a rough reading of the bible. Then again, the bible isnt exactly specific. Some say only works, some say only faith, some say both...but for the most part faith tends to be the biggest thing tied to salvation.
Personally I would draw my final answer from intuition. In the end, we are talking about an all powerful god. An all powerful god doesnt need his worshippers approval to do anything. So this god may, more than likely, arbitrarily pick and choose who he wants to burn in Hell if it so pleases him. Of course, the worshippers and believers will jump up and down and argue that god CANT do that, that he would keep his promise and yadda yadda, but in reality a god can do whatever he/she wants in spite of its believers. The believers will non-stop insist otherwise, as if their objections can stop and control an all powerful deity from ultimately doing what it wants. An all knowing god will know every choice of action that every person would make thousands of years before that person was even born. That all knowing god would even see his own future and know what choices he would make in regards of either sending people to his paradise, or eternal torture. So, if a god exists such as the bible suggest, every humans fate was sealed an infinity amount of years ago, before the universe was even created. This would mean works and faith play nothing into the grand scheme of things as there would be no freewill. Everything would have been exhaustively scripted out and approved of by the creator god before creation. If a god didnt like MY future decisions, that he KNEW I was going to make, and he KNEW he was going to send me to hell, then why did he allow me to be created in the first place?
The answer: He WANTS to send people to hell.
So, intuitively I would say that if a god REALLY existed, then the bible wouldnt really matter. Our fates would have been sealed long ago, and god apparently enjoys the idea of torturing people in Hell for all eternity. That would make the creator a malevolent force. So my answer would be that both will burn in Hell.
Yeah, if I had to put my money down on a bet, I would bet it all on BOTH Persons A and B burning in Hell for the amusement of the malevolent designer.
Personally I would draw my final answer from intuition. In the end, we are talking about an all powerful god. An all powerful god doesnt need his worshippers approval to do anything. So this god may, more than likely, arbitrarily pick and choose who he wants to burn in Hell if it so pleases him. Of course, the worshippers and believers will jump up and down and argue that god CANT do that, that he would keep his promise and yadda yadda, but in reality a god can do whatever he/she wants in spite of its believers. The believers will non-stop insist otherwise, as if their objections can stop and control an all powerful deity from ultimately doing what it wants. An all knowing god will know every choice of action that every person would make thousands of years before that person was even born. That all knowing god would even see his own future and know what choices he would make in regards of either sending people to his paradise, or eternal torture. So, if a god exists such as the bible suggest, every humans fate was sealed an infinity amount of years ago, before the universe was even created. This would mean works and faith play nothing into the grand scheme of things as there would be no freewill. Everything would have been exhaustively scripted out and approved of by the creator god before creation. If a god didnt like MY future decisions, that he KNEW I was going to make, and he KNEW he was going to send me to hell, then why did he allow me to be created in the first place?
The answer: He WANTS to send people to hell.
So, intuitively I would say that if a god REALLY existed, then the bible wouldnt really matter. Our fates would have been sealed long ago, and god apparently enjoys the idea of torturing people in Hell for all eternity. That would make the creator a malevolent force. So my answer would be that both will burn in Hell.
Yeah, if I had to put my money down on a bet, I would bet it all on BOTH Persons A and B burning in Hell for the amusement of the malevolent designer.