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"Orange is the New Black" on Atheism
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RE: "Orange is the New Black" on Atheism
(September 9, 2016 at 3:47 pm)ScienceAf Wrote: God is evil, and malevolent if he exists.
He could do something.
But he doesn't give a fuck.

God is not evil, he gives us all eternal life with him.  He could do something about suffering and death, but they're not evil if they are for a good purpose.

Quote:And provide a case for the existence of god.
With citations, specialized authors, peer-reviews, etc.

There is no scientific proof for God with citations, etc., and there doesn't need to be.  We can't prove the existence of other life in the universe, but with the size of the universe, I'd bet that there is. I believe in God because I searched for him and he caused me to believe.  As far as atheism, I see no natural explanation for the existence of the universe or any answer to the questions of how far the universe extends or what lies beyond the universe.  I personally see a greater case for something something supernatural co-existing with the natural universe.

Quote:And pascals wager here dude.
Your religion ain't perfect either, I'm taking account to all of the Jedeo-chrsitain/Islamic religions and dominations.

I don't claim my religion is perfect.  No religion is perfect. No human belief system is perfect.

Quote:However Hitler had a choice to not kill them. But he let them die.
God had a choice to let them live. But he let them die.

Life is our existence from the beginning to the end, not just to when we're finished here.  God allows us to live eternally.

Quote:If god lets us be happy we won't be affected by free will.
It's will against will and if we succumb than if was our choice.
But god doesn't offer us help. So we don't have much of a choice.

God doesn't have to let us be happy, but he does.  He helps, but if you want his help you need to let him be the boss.  There are conditions and you have the free will not to accept those conditions.

Quote:If a guns pointed at my head and the mugger says "Gimme your money," is it my fault that I'm dead when I say "No,"?

If I say "if you go into that alley a mugger is going to kill you" is it your fault that you're dead if you go anyway?
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"Orange is the New Black" on Atheism - by ScienceAf - September 7, 2016 at 12:08 pm
RE: "Orange is the New Black" on Atheism - by Jesster - September 7, 2016 at 12:12 pm
RE: "Orange is the New Black" on Atheism - by ScienceAf - September 7, 2016 at 12:14 pm
RE: "Orange is the New Black" on Atheism - by Jesster - September 7, 2016 at 12:16 pm
RE: "Orange is the New Black" on Atheism - by ScienceAf - September 7, 2016 at 12:17 pm
RE: "Orange is the New Black" on Atheism - by mlmooney89 - September 7, 2016 at 12:30 pm
RE: "Orange is the New Black" on Atheism - by ScienceAf - September 7, 2016 at 12:34 pm
RE: "Orange is the New Black" on Atheism - by Ravenshire - September 7, 2016 at 2:37 pm
RE: "Orange is the New Black" on Atheism - by ScienceAf - September 7, 2016 at 4:40 pm
RE: "Orange is the New Black" on Atheism - by mlmooney89 - September 7, 2016 at 12:44 pm
RE: "Orange is the New Black" on Atheism - by ScienceAf - September 7, 2016 at 12:50 pm
RE: "Orange is the New Black" on Atheism - by ScienceAf - September 7, 2016 at 3:17 pm
RE: "Orange is the New Black" on Atheism - by mlmooney89 - September 7, 2016 at 1:09 pm
RE: "Orange is the New Black" on Atheism - by ScienceAf - September 7, 2016 at 3:16 pm
RE: "Orange is the New Black" on Atheism - by ScienceAf - September 7, 2016 at 3:18 pm
RE: "Orange is the New Black" on Atheism - by Aegon - September 7, 2016 at 3:28 pm
RE: "Orange is the New Black" on Atheism - by ScienceAf - September 7, 2016 at 3:34 pm
RE: "Orange is the New Black" on Atheism - by Crossless1 - September 7, 2016 at 4:20 pm
RE: "Orange is the New Black" on Atheism - by Lek - September 9, 2016 at 3:35 pm
RE: "Orange is the New Black" on Atheism - by ScienceAf - September 9, 2016 at 3:47 pm
RE: "Orange is the New Black" on Atheism - by Lek - September 9, 2016 at 5:07 pm
RE: - by Lek - September 9, 2016 at 5:10 pm
RE: "Orange is the New Black" on Atheism - by Crossless1 - September 9, 2016 at 5:14 pm
RE: "Orange is the New Black" on Atheism - by ScienceAf - September 9, 2016 at 5:46 pm
RE: "Orange is the New Black" on Atheism - by Lek - September 9, 2016 at 6:40 pm
RE: "Orange is the New Black" on Atheism - by ScienceAf - September 9, 2016 at 7:04 pm
RE: "Orange is the New Black" on Atheism - by Lek - September 9, 2016 at 10:35 pm
RE: "Orange is the New Black" on Atheism - by ScienceAf - September 10, 2016 at 1:05 am
RE: "Orange is the New Black" on Atheism - by Lek - September 9, 2016 at 5:33 pm
RE: "Orange is the New Black" on Atheism - by Crossless1 - September 9, 2016 at 5:38 pm
RE: "Orange is the New Black" on Atheism - by Czechlervitz30 - September 9, 2016 at 5:52 pm
RE: "Orange is the New Black" on Atheism - by ScienceAf - September 9, 2016 at 7:56 pm

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