(October 23, 2016 at 5:42 pm)Alasdair Ham Wrote:Well to be fair, the only place we can experience anything is inside ourself whether it comes from the inside our the outside. I cannot subjectively experience what is happening in New York because I am not objectively there....but I'm sure it's going on quite objectively finely without me and there are as many subjective experiences of New York as there are people in it.(October 23, 2016 at 4:55 pm)bennyboy Wrote: Experience is generally termed "subjective," while those things the experiencer experiences are at least sometimes called objective.
The experiencer is not separate from the experience though [emoji6] Let us not duplicate our phenomenology: I myself as an experiencer from that position as myself as an experiencer am not and cannot be separate from my experiences... from the position of my own simple experience there is no "out there" because out there is in here... the only thing that an experiencer can experience is experiences... and that includes experiencing him or herself as an experiencer... he or she is not separate from their experiences--again, from the position of themselves as an experiencer [emoji41]
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Consider me a satellite forever orbiting,
I knew the rules but the rules did not know me, guaranteed." - Eddie Vedder