(October 23, 2016 at 5:42 pm)Alasdair Ham Wrote:(October 23, 2016 at 4:55 pm)bennyboy Wrote: Experience is generally termed "subjective," while those things the experiencer experiences are at least sometimes called objective.
The experiencer is not separate from the experience though [emoji6] Let us not duplicate our phenomenology: I myself as an experiencer from that position as myself as an experiencer am not and cannot be separate from my experiences... from the position of my own simple experience there is no "out there" because out there is in here... the only thing that an experiencer can experience is experiences... and that includes experiencing him or herself as an experiencer... he or she is not separate from their experiences--again, from the position of themselves as an experiencer
Yep. That's why I said experiences are sometimes called objective. As for whether experiences are PART of the self, or ARE the self, or happen TO the self, nobody can really know for sure.
However, if you already accept that other people exist, and that you can share some experiences with them, and cannot share other experiences, then those experiences, WHATEVER they are or does/doesn't lie behind them, can be called objective.