Theist ➤ Why ☠ Atheism is Evil Compared to ✠ Christianity

[Chad32]

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Well if you see nothing wrong in the old testament, then we're probably not going to come to an agreement here. There's not much I can say on morality if our thinking is that divergent.

We are animals. We have a moral obligation to our people because we're social animals. we need each other for long, healthy lives. There are instances of people living off in the woods by themselves, but generally it's a much riskier situation. Especially if you live in an area with large predators. Morality comes about because we are social animals that need rules in order to coexist.

As far as right or wrong, we obviously have an example of how different people's views on that can be. I find the majority of the bible deplorable, while you just say I need to read it "in context", and act as if your god is good by definition. Why should we think he is good, anyway? Because he says he is? 

There are no objective morals, and this is proven by the fact that people right on this message board can talk so passionately from opposite sides of major issues. A person's morals can change with age, given new information. Mine changed as I grew up, and left the church. Someone's can change as they grow up to become religious. Morality is flexible.

Was the atheist Joseph Stalin wrong for killing over 42 million people in the 1900s?  If so, why?  If not, why not?

In atheism, if you say rape is wrong because it harms someone, why is harm the standard of morality?

If you believe something is morally wrong (like rape), "ought" you do something about it and impose your value on others? If you "ought" to impose your moral value on others (like stoping a rape), what gives you the moral right to do that? Do you believe that the subjective opinions of a society offer proper basis for morality?

If you say that reducing harm is a valid standard of morality because that is what people want, then how are you not promoting an arbitrary standard since it is based on peoples’ feelings and desires which change?

I guess it depends on the context, huh? Because apparently mass murder can be justified, depending on who does it?

I don't like it when people harm me. Therefore I should agree that harming others is wrong. It's one of the most basic fundamentals of right and wrong. Though apparently even that can change, depending on where you are. Hence the recent story of a woman being arrested after she reported a rape.

If I know something wrong is happening, and have the power to stop it, I should. Otherwise I'm partially responsible for it happening. But again, what is right and wrong can vary from group to group, so it's not a very simple problem. There's no one size fits all solution, which is why societies often change over time. If something doesn't change, it becomes obsolete, which is a problem when you flot the idea of an unchanging god.