RE: Atheism is irrational.
December 7, 2016 at 4:04 pm
(This post was last modified: December 7, 2016 at 4:04 pm by Simon Moon.)
(December 7, 2016 at 2:51 pm)Rhythm Wrote: People of remarkably high character firmly believe, to the point of calling it knowledge, in demonstrably untrue things....these things can and often do effect change in their life, regardless of whether or not they actually happened. Nothing about a persons character or life changes even speaks to the subject of consideration. Those criteria cannot answer the question to which they've been applied.
Then, ofc, there's the issue of two people, both having remarkably high character, who both seem to have had positively weighted effects in their lives after having some epiphany......trouble is, they have mutually contradictory epiphanies which, by the criteria you offered, would be considered simultaneously true? 2 dozen people? 2 hundred people? 2 million people? 2 billion?
It's unworkable.
This is so obviously true.
A high percentage of Hindus, Jains, Zoroastrians, Muslims claim to have positive 'god' related experiences with mutually exclusive deities.
Yet, according to Neo, they are wrong and only those that follow his brand of religion are right. Yet, most of the people from those other religions claim the same thing.
I have a very good friend, who was addicted to drugs and alcohol, living on the street and committing petty crimes to feed his addiction. One day, he walked into a Hindu temple in LA and claims to have had a religious epiphany, and never touched drugs again. He completely changed his life around, and now has a successful business and a great family. He is still a Hindu.
I am sure that Neo-Scholastic would not accept his epiphany actually being caused by the Hindu gods, right?
The only thing Neo has to differentiate my friend's religious experience, to the ones related to his god, is special pleading.
And here we are, on the outside of ALL of these beliefs, with no idea on who is right, if any of them. With absolutely no method to test them.
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.