(January 17, 2017 at 6:35 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:Balaco is a fucking dictionary??? I knew there was something off with him, but I had no idea he was a damned book!(January 17, 2017 at 6:25 pm)Asmodee Wrote: That is absolutely not true. In fact, most Christians don't even believe that. I can't tell you how many times a Christian has told me that God couldn't prove himself because then we would have to believe and faith wouldn't be necessary. In fact, that came up in a conversation I had rather recently here:
So you're going to argue with a damn dictionary/thesaurus?
Did I give any definitions? Did I quote any dictionary or any thesaurus? Or did I give a real-life example to show that common usage is not as you say?
But yeah, I can argue with a dictionary for you. Mind if I borrow yours? I'll use your dictionary.com link to look up both words.
Belief:
1.
something believed; an opinion or conviction:
a belief that the earth is flat.
2.
confidence in the truth or existence of something not immediately susceptible to rigorous proof:
a statement unworthy of belief.
3.
confidence; faith; trust:
a child's belief in his parents.
4.
a religious tenet or tenets; religious creed or faith:
the Christian belief.
Faith:
1.
confidence or trust in a person or thing:
faith in another's ability.
2.
belief that is not based on proof:
He had faith that the hypothesis would be substantiated by fact.
3.
belief in God or in the doctrines or teachings of religion:
the firm faith of the Pilgrims.
4.
belief in anything, as a code of ethics, standards of merit, etc.:
to be of the same faith with someone concerning honesty.
5.
a system of religious belief:
the Christian faith; the Jewish faith.
6.
the obligation of loyalty or fidelity to a person, promise, engagement, etc.:
Failure to appear would be breaking faith.
7.
the observance of this obligation; fidelity to one's promise, oath, allegiance, etc.:
Let's see here. Belief....one, two, three, four... Faith...one, two, three, four, five? Six?? SEVEN??? Four isn't seven! Maybe I'm misunderstanding what "no difference" means. Should I look up the words "no" and "difference" for you next? Because I see quite a difference here. Maybe I'm stupid. I'm sure that's probably it. But it just doesn't look to me like there is "no difference" between one word with 4 definitions and another with 7.
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