(January 18, 2017 at 5:47 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:Yeah, that's the point where I posted the quote from Balaco, as I said. You'll note that it was Balaco's reply to me that I posted. It was posted in a reply to you. I don't know how to explain simple sequential events any better than that. There was no "response to Balaco" there, in my response to you, where I quoted Balaco, but did not respond to him.(January 18, 2017 at 1:09 pm)Asmodee Wrote: What the hell are you smoking? I posted a quote FROM Balaco, I didn't respond TO Balaco. That was all for you, buddy.
http://atheistforums.org/thread-47154-po...pid1488822
(January 18, 2017 at 5:47 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:OH, I see where you went off now! No, YOU were talking out YOUR ass. The post from Balaco was an EXAMPLE of someone who used "faith" and "belief" as different words with different meanings. As was everything I typed in there, that was a response TO YOU. I was talking TO YOU that entire time. The post was an example of what I was saying TO YOU.(January 17, 2017 at 6:25 pm)Asmodee Wrote: That is absolutely not true. In fact, most Christians don't even believe that. I can't tell you how many times a Christian has told me that God couldn't prove himself because then we would have to believe and faith wouldn't be necessary. In fact, that came up in a conversation I had rather recently here:
So once again you're talking out your ass with absolute certainty about that which is literally impossible to know with any certainty.
You are clearly responding to Balaco there buddy, if not, you need to learn to format your posts better.
(January 18, 2017 at 5:47 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:Context are not important when there is "no difference". This is a simple concept. If there is "no difference" then context is irrelevant because "no difference" means they are always "the same", which would be true regardless of context. I see you're now trying to justify your blanket statement by injecting context, saying "faith in god" and "belief in god" instead of just "faith" and "belief" as you did in the text I originally applied to. Yes, if you change what you're saying enough after the fact you will eventually make it right. But that doesn't mean it was right all along.(January 18, 2017 at 1:09 pm)Asmodee Wrote: Did I EVER argue that they weren't synonyms? I argued that when you said there was "no difference", that was wrong. Faith IS a synonym of belief, but synonym does not mean "Means the same thing as the other word, in all instances, without question". They are "synonyms", but there IS "a difference". If there were "no difference" then the definitions would be the same. There would be "no difference" in the definitions.
But all of this semantics bullshit aside, I have proved my point that "faith" and "belief" are commonly used as DIFFERENT words having DIFFERENT meanings. I only took exception to the part where you said there was "no difference", so yeah, your facepalm graphic there hit the nail on the head because it is like pulling teeth trying to get a simple point across to you.
Then stop reading. I don't give a fuck. Frankly this is one of the more intelligent responses I've gotten from you. So, good job! Way to raise the bar! Now I'm going to expect it in the future, though.
You see, it's not that hard. It took Mister Agenda very little effort to examine what I was saying and determine, not only what it was that I was saying, but that it was accurate. It's actually very simple. "Synonymous" does not mean "Exactly the same in all instances; no difference"
Did you forget you gave an example of context?
(January 17, 2017 at 6:25 pm)Asmodee Wrote: I can't tell you how many times a Christian has told me that God couldn't prove himself because then we would have to believe and faith wouldn't be necessary.
Faith in God, and belief in God are the same thing.
Again, it took Mister Agenda very little effort to see what I am plainly saying. It is taking you considerably more effort not to see it.
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