RE: "Declared Clinically Dead"
February 5, 2017 at 6:33 pm
(This post was last modified: February 5, 2017 at 6:38 pm by bennyboy.)
(February 3, 2017 at 2:48 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:(February 3, 2017 at 1:46 pm)robvalue Wrote: And clearly, if you have come back to life, you weren't permanently dead.
Obviously.
Also I think Doctors have a pretty good grasp on how to determine death.
Well. . .
I think it's still possible to make mistakes. If someone's not breathing, no heartbeat, no measurable brain activity, then they're pretty much dead. However, in some very special circumstances (or at least so I've heard) people have been resuscitated because for example a very low body temperature lowered the metabolism or whatever.
(February 5, 2017 at 12:24 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote:The problem here is a conflation between something called "death" with actual death. In your case, it seems to be deliberate-- to show that there's mental experience after death. However, the clinical death we are talking about is not in fact death-- it's a near-death or death-like state.Quote:Stopped blood circulation has historically proven irreversible in most cases. Prior to the invention of cardiopulmonary resuscitation (CPR), defibrillation, epinephrine injection, and other treatments in the 20th century, the absence of blood circulation (and vital functions related to blood circulation) was historically considered the official definition of death. With the advent of these strategies, cardiac arrest came to be called clinical death rather than simply death, to reflect the possibility of post-arrest resuscitation.
So while you act like everyone who uses the term in this way are all idiots..... how are you saying the term should be defined, and do you have any support for that definition. I would encourage people to search for the meaning of clinical death here.
The fact is that whatever you call it, those who come back to report mysterious near-death experiences were all in very good physical shape with regards to death-- their brains had not rotted away or been incinerated, for example. Most dead people do NOT have brains capable of functioning again under any circumstances.
So if someone believes mind to be brain function, then playing with the definition of death isn't very useful, since it does nothing to dissuade them from that position.