(February 23, 2017 at 1:36 pm)SteveII Wrote: 1. Khem and I are going back and forth in another thread on this. I intend to reply to him tonight, but in general Naturalism teaches that we are the product of time and chance (evolution). That process cannot endow us with intrinsic (defined as belonging naturally, essential) value any more than anything else that evolved. I am not saying that we don't have value, but rather that the value comes from things we can do and not simply because we exist.
If God exists, he created us for a purpose and gives us intrinsic (defined as belonging naturally, essential) value/meaning/purpose. For example, take a block of wood. It has the properties of wood (fiberous, organic, brown, hard, etc.). If a craftsman take the block of wood and transforms it into a chair, it now has the new properties and purpose of being a chair. If it had grown into something that looks like a chair, we could not call it a chair and it would not have those properties and purpose of being a chair.
2. No, you view humanity as fine the way it is. I believe a relationship with God is needed and can make it better. Christians believe that humans were made in the image of God. How much more respect do you need?
1.Thank's for the English lesson Steve.
The block of wood you describe was once a tree, alive and serving it's purpose on the planet.
I feel (just like the tree) that I have a purpose already, and do not require your God to give me a purpose.
2.I believe humanity would benefit greatly if we ditched all notions of God. I believe we evolved, so again no need for God or his respect.
