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Very short version of the long argument.
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RE: Very short version of the long argument.
(September 11, 2017 at 8:17 am)MysticKnight Wrote: If we know to some degree something about the highest possible goodness there is a connection to it.
If there is a connection to it, it exists.
We do know something about the highest possible goodness.
Therefore there is a connection it.
Therefore it exists.


The disputable premise might be we know something about it but even atheists argue that God who allows suffering without benign purpose cannot be ultimate good. And they argue by some knowledge of the ultimate good to assert it cannot exist. At the end, no true knowledge of a transcendent goodness beyond our limits can be know without a connection! And if there is a connection than just as we exist on one hand what we are connected to exists as well!


If you wish to see elaboration to each premise, see the long but worth it thread.

Even if we did know about the theoretical highest possible goodness, no description of any god in any religion ever conceived fits that theoretical description. Try again.
Religions were invented to impress and dupe illiterate, superstitious stone-age peasants. So in this modern, enlightened age of information, what's your excuse? Or are you saying with all your advantages, you were still tricked as easily as those early humans?

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There is no better way to convey the least amount of information in the greatest amount of words than to try explaining your religious views.
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Very short version of the long argument. - by MysticKnight - September 11, 2017 at 8:17 am
RE: Very short version of the long argument. - by Alex K - September 11, 2017 at 8:25 am
RE: Very short version of the long argument. - by MysticKnight - September 11, 2017 at 8:32 am
RE: Very short version of the long argument. - by Alex K - September 11, 2017 at 10:05 am
RE: Very short version of the long argument. - by brewer - September 11, 2017 at 8:33 am
RE: Very short version of the long argument. - by MysticKnight - September 11, 2017 at 8:35 am
RE: Very short version of the long argument. - by brewer - September 11, 2017 at 8:37 am
RE: Very short version of the long argument. - by MysticKnight - September 11, 2017 at 8:39 am
RE: Very short version of the long argument. - by brewer - September 11, 2017 at 8:47 am
RE: Very short version of the long argument. - by bennyboy - September 11, 2017 at 12:21 pm
RE: Very short version of the long argument. - by MysticKnight - September 12, 2017 at 2:19 am
RE: Very short version of the long argument. - by LadyForCamus - September 12, 2017 at 6:54 am
RE: Very short version of the long argument. - by MysticKnight - September 12, 2017 at 7:40 am
RE: Very short version of the long argument. - by LadyForCamus - September 12, 2017 at 9:29 am
RE: Very short version of the long argument. - by MysticKnight - September 13, 2017 at 7:48 am
RE: Very short version of the long argument. - by Astreja - September 11, 2017 at 3:21 pm
RE: Very short version of the long argument. - by bennyboy - September 11, 2017 at 8:39 am
RE: Very short version of the long argument. - by Athene - September 11, 2017 at 8:44 am
RE: Very short version of the long argument. - by MysticKnight - September 11, 2017 at 8:45 am
RE: Very short version of the long argument. - by Athene - September 11, 2017 at 8:52 am
RE: Very short version of the long argument. - by MysticKnight - September 11, 2017 at 9:02 am
RE: Very short version of the long argument. - by Athene - September 11, 2017 at 9:15 am
RE: Very short version of the long argument. - by Cyberman - September 11, 2017 at 9:20 am
RE: Very short version of the long argument. - by MysticKnight - September 11, 2017 at 9:22 am
RE: Very short version of the long argument. - by Cyberman - September 11, 2017 at 9:29 am
RE: Very short version of the long argument. - by MysticKnight - September 11, 2017 at 8:47 am
RE: Very short version of the long argument. - by brewer - September 11, 2017 at 9:03 am
RE: Very short version of the long argument. - by Edwardo Piet - September 11, 2017 at 12:39 pm
RE: Very short version of the long argument. - by Cyberman - September 11, 2017 at 9:24 am
RE: Very short version of the long argument. - by MysticKnight - September 11, 2017 at 9:40 am
RE: Very short version of the long argument. - by Edwardo Piet - September 11, 2017 at 9:26 am
RE: Very short version of the long argument. - by Cyberman - September 11, 2017 at 9:48 am
RE: Very short version of the long argument. - by MysticKnight - September 11, 2017 at 9:51 am
RE: Very short version of the long argument. - by Cyberman - September 11, 2017 at 9:52 am
RE: Very short version of the long argument. - by Edwardo Piet - September 11, 2017 at 9:53 am
RE: Very short version of the long argument. - by Edwardo Piet - September 11, 2017 at 10:07 am
RE: Very short version of the long argument. - by Minimalist - September 11, 2017 at 12:32 pm
RE: Very short version of the long argument. - by LadyForCamus - September 11, 2017 at 1:53 pm
RE: Very short version of the long argument. - by Succubus - September 11, 2017 at 2:24 pm
RE: Very short version of the long argument. - by Astonished - September 12, 2017 at 1:14 am
RE: Very short version of the long argument. - by Minimalist - September 12, 2017 at 1:49 am
RE: Very short version of the long argument. - by Edwardo Piet - September 13, 2017 at 2:36 pm
RE: Very short version of the long argument. - by Crossless2.0 - September 14, 2017 at 11:33 am
RE: Very short version of the long argument. - by Edwardo Piet - September 15, 2017 at 12:57 am
RE: Very short version of the long argument. - by ignoramus - September 12, 2017 at 7:58 am
RE: Very short version of the long argument. - by MysticKnight - September 12, 2017 at 8:11 am
RE: Very short version of the long argument. - by WinterHold - September 13, 2017 at 8:53 am
RE: Very short version of the long argument. - by Astreja - September 13, 2017 at 8:59 am
RE: Very short version of the long argument. - by WinterHold - September 13, 2017 at 9:43 am
RE: Very short version of the long argument. - by Whateverist - September 13, 2017 at 12:11 pm
RE: Very short version of the long argument. - by WinterHold - September 13, 2017 at 12:51 pm
RE: Very short version of the long argument. - by Cyberman - September 13, 2017 at 12:54 pm
RE: Very short version of the long argument. - by WinterHold - September 13, 2017 at 1:11 pm
RE: Very short version of the long argument. - by Cyberman - September 13, 2017 at 1:41 pm
RE: Very short version of the long argument. - by WinterHold - September 13, 2017 at 1:50 pm
RE: Very short version of the long argument. - by Cyberman - September 13, 2017 at 3:08 pm
RE: Very short version of the long argument. - by The Valkyrie - September 13, 2017 at 3:44 pm
RE: Very short version of the long argument. - by Edwardo Piet - September 14, 2017 at 8:34 am
RE: Very short version of the long argument. - by LadyForCamus - September 14, 2017 at 10:28 am

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