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The Ultimate Value and the signs of it in ourselves.
RE: The Ultimate Value and the signs of it in ourselves.
(September 23, 2017 at 3:32 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: I am possessed by demons. We all have to fight our demons. I am possessed to a degree most people are not.

I know it did lead me away from religion, so I know it did that to me.

At the end, I know if we don't fight for our souls, no one will. If we don't seek to break deceptions and know the truth with power, resolve, and sincerity, then yes while we don't choose our beliefs that are formulated like a chaotic tornado mocking up the beautiful city we were originated on, but never less, we chose to let go of control over our souls and let the demons take over.

I am sorry if it sounds cheesey, if it sounds preachy, if it's annoying, but I feel it's my duty to at least try to help.  I know it most likely won't help, but I have to try.

Demons do not exist.  Now, some people refer to bad habits and addictions as demons, and if you're dealing with that, I feel you.  But an individual, sentient, malicious, invisible entity who hates humans - nope.  They don't exist.  My Mother thought my rainbow-colored stuffed toy snake was likely to get possessed by a demon when I was 7, and she threw it in the fire.  You're step by step with her on rationality right now. Demons, Angels, Souls and Gods don't exist either.  I will, of course, amend that statement when one shows up and proves me wrong.

We most definitely are not in need of any sort of "help" from you.  We don't need assertions about your imaginary friend that you can't even prove exists.  We are adults who have studied extensively and chosen what we believe.  (Well, except for the lucky ones who were raised non-religious.)  To assume that we need your guidance on anything is disrespectful and insulting.  And to accuse us of dishonesty is childish.  

We don't choose our beliefs.  They come from our parents, our communities, and our upbringing.  If you had been born in Reykjavik, you would be an atheist.  If you had been born in Calcutta, you would probably be a Hindu.  I had the hideous misfortune to be born into a Fundamentalist Christian family.  (Think Westboro Baptist.)  It took a lot of therapy, a lot of comparative religion studies, and some lovely science classes, but here I am.  

If I were to follow your example, I would give you an impassioned plea for rationality and show you how the chains that bind your mind can be broken. You can be free!  But what you believe is your business, MK, I think you are probably good at heart.  But preachers are narcissistic asshole breathing piles of shit who only want to tell other people what to think and get paid to spout lies. Have you been surprised that people find preaching offensive?  Tip: that will NEVER change.
"The family that prays together...is brainwashing their children."- Albert Einstein
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RE: The Ultimate Value and the signs of it in ourselves. - by drfuzzy - September 23, 2017 at 6:28 pm

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