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Societal Scapegoat or Guilty as Charged?
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RE: Societal Scapegoat or Guilty as Charged?
(August 22, 2011 at 10:39 am)Napoleon Wrote: Depends if it's in relation to a crime really, if you can see that they are conspiring to commit an act and that they are a threat to other people due to what they say then why should that person be able to get away with it?
If you can prove that they were conspiring to commit a crime, and not just saying it, then by all means arrest them. However whilst someone could (and should) be investigated for saying "I want to kill everyone", saying it should not be grounds for arresting them. Freedom of speech is exactly that; the freedom to say anything you want.

In the rioting case, two people were sentenced to 4 year jail terms for encouraging people to riot in a specific area. Not only did nobody riot in that area, but if they had done, you'd be hard pushed to prove any link between the encouragement and the rioting. I don't think people should be arrested or sentenced for such reasons; if you aren't committing (or planning to commit) a crime yourself, you shouldn't be part of an investigation.

(August 22, 2011 at 10:43 am)Jaysyn Wrote: So you think Dennis Markuze shouldn't have been arrested then? After all, "them's just words", right?
He should be investigated, since I believe that he is mentally unstable and should be receiving medical help. I don't think he should go to jail for what he's said though. If it can be proved that he was actively planning to attack atheists, then he should be arrested for conspiring to commit and unlawful act, but that's as far as it goes.
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Societal Scapegoat or Guilty as Charged? - by Cinjin - August 21, 2011 at 8:54 pm
RE: Societal Scapegoat or Guilty as Charged? - by Skeptic - August 21, 2011 at 9:20 pm
RE: Societal Scapegoat or Guilty as Charged? - by frankiej - August 22, 2011 at 9:00 am
RE: Societal Scapegoat or Guilty as Charged? - by Napoléon - August 22, 2011 at 10:06 am
RE: Societal Scapegoat or Guilty as Charged? - by frankiej - August 22, 2011 at 10:28 am
RE: Societal Scapegoat or Guilty as Charged? - by Tiberius - August 22, 2011 at 10:36 am
RE: Societal Scapegoat or Guilty as Charged? - by Napoléon - August 22, 2011 at 10:39 am
RE: Societal Scapegoat or Guilty as Charged? - by frankiej - August 22, 2011 at 10:42 am
RE: Societal Scapegoat or Guilty as Charged? - by Jaysyn - August 22, 2011 at 10:43 am
RE: Societal Scapegoat or Guilty as Charged? - by Violet - August 22, 2011 at 1:40 pm
RE: Societal Scapegoat or Guilty as Charged? - by frankiej - August 22, 2011 at 10:45 am
RE: Societal Scapegoat or Guilty as Charged? - by Napoléon - August 22, 2011 at 10:49 am
RE: Societal Scapegoat or Guilty as Charged? - by frankiej - August 22, 2011 at 10:59 am
RE: Societal Scapegoat or Guilty as Charged? - by frankiej - August 22, 2011 at 11:07 am
RE: Societal Scapegoat or Guilty as Charged? - by frankiej - August 22, 2011 at 11:14 am
RE: Societal Scapegoat or Guilty as Charged? - by frankiej - August 22, 2011 at 11:17 am
RE: Societal Scapegoat or Guilty as Charged? - by frankiej - August 22, 2011 at 11:21 am
RE: Societal Scapegoat or Guilty as Charged? - by Tiberius - August 22, 2011 at 11:46 am
RE: Societal Scapegoat or Guilty as Charged? - by Jaysyn - August 22, 2011 at 3:32 pm
RE: Societal Scapegoat or Guilty as Charged? - by Cinjin - August 22, 2011 at 1:07 pm
RE: Societal Scapegoat or Guilty as Charged? - by Tiberius - August 22, 2011 at 4:04 pm

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