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Lying to your children
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RE: Lying to your children
(September 20, 2011 at 7:16 pm)padraic Wrote:
Quote: Quote:They're all theories with varying degrees of substantiation and should be taught as such. Teaching evolution as fact is also harmful.

Oh dear,here we go yet again: Creationism is NOT a theory in the scientific sense,in fact it is the antithesis of a theory, Creationism/ID is religious doctrine,without supporting evidence.

Evolution is fact you cretin..

My understanding is that IT IS UNLAWFUL to teach that doctrine in a science class in ANY US PUBLIC SCHOOL. Period.


Based on that post,the school in question is breaking the law.



PS Was that quote from our little Hobbit?


It's amazing that people don't know all of these points already.

Creationism and creation science are neither science nor theories. They have no evidence, unless you count the bible. Which you can't. Because it has no proof. Period.

Evolution is observable, and has been recorded in small scale tests with bacteria. It is real. It happens. We have proved it. Deal with it.

You can't teach any form of religion in public schools. Teachers cannot endorse any religion for their students.

The neutral to religion stance is atheism- Islam, Christianity, Judaism, etc. are biased toward their respective faiths, as questioning leads to eternal fire pits and such. (Though not all atheists are unbiased.)

No, science does not know everything. Scientists are, however, moving forward with theories based on facts collected by actually testing things. Just because we don't have every single answer yet doesn't mean any religion is true, and it certainly doesn't mean that your particular religion is true.

Love is not proof of god. It has purposes tactically and evolutionarily. Love keeps social animals together and encourages procreation.

We are not designed perfectly for the earth. About 80% of its surface is either water, desert, or tundra. The 20% we use would still regularly kill many of us via predators and diseases if science hadn't saved all of our asses. That's why I hate it when theistic morons insult scientists.

Scientists have recently created self-replicating amino acids- the simplest forms of "life." So now we have that, too.

That voice in your head is not god. It is either your internal conscience, or you are scizophrenic. That warm fuzzy feeling you might get when god talks to you results from the "god spot."

We have a god spot because believing in a great punisher in the sky who would make us be nice to each other (while encouraging us to unify and smash our enemies) allowed for societies to form and survive. That is also why so many religions are so similar, and why so many people believe- the chemicals tell them to. So in the past, religion had a use. But not anymore.

The bright lights you may see when you die is the result of chemical overload as your brain malfunctions. That anyone is brought back from that point to tell of the moment of near death is one more reason why science is awesome, and that people who belittle their contributions are bigots.

Evolution is not spontaneous generation from the dirt, and it does not happen in leaps and bounds. (such as growing a new, fully functioning set of hands in a few generations.) It is governed by the same basic processes which make your eyes blue or which make you shorter than a family member. Minor genetic variation at fertilization, across thousands of generations.
Evolution also does not have pre-determined species labeled as human or frog which are randomly, if rarely, born to any species. To say that monkeys would evolve into humans or that one would be born to a human mother is ridiculous. Humans are not the end point, and evolution is not some nifty march toward us. Monkeys do fine in their environment- why would they evolve in our direction?

I hear the questions to these answers constantly, even though I would have hoped that the religious would have heard all of them long ago. They probably would have, if they even bothered to learn an iota about the real world. (Even the ones who say they know about evolution usually think that it's the same thing as abiogenesis, or a similar variant.)

Sorry for the rant, I just want to inform any ignorant theists (not claiming that all theists are ignorant- but most are) about all of these common points which I see so many of them cluelessly repeat.
What falls away is always, and is near.

Also, I am not pretending to be female, this profile picture is my wonderful girlfriend. XD
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Messages In This Thread
Lying to your children - by xxxtobymac - September 20, 2011 at 12:57 pm
RE: Lying to your children - by ElDinero - September 20, 2011 at 12:59 pm
RE: Lying to your children - by Minimalist - September 20, 2011 at 1:00 pm
RE: Lying to your children - by xxxtobymac - September 20, 2011 at 1:09 pm
RE: Lying to your children - by ElDinero - September 20, 2011 at 1:14 pm
RE: Lying to your children - by xxxtobymac - September 20, 2011 at 1:18 pm
RE: Lying to your children - by ElDinero - September 20, 2011 at 1:20 pm
RE: Lying to your children - by xxxtobymac - September 20, 2011 at 1:23 pm
RE: Lying to your children - by ElDinero - September 20, 2011 at 1:28 pm
RE: Lying to your children - by xxxtobymac - September 20, 2011 at 1:32 pm
RE: Lying to your children - by Minimalist - September 20, 2011 at 2:43 pm
RE: Lying to your children - by Erinome - September 20, 2011 at 2:22 pm
RE: Lying to your children - by Jaysyn - September 20, 2011 at 2:48 pm
RE: Lying to your children - by fr0d0 - September 20, 2011 at 3:44 pm
RE: Lying to your children - by Minimalist - September 20, 2011 at 3:55 pm
RE: Lying to your children - by fr0d0 - September 20, 2011 at 4:16 pm
RE: Lying to your children - by Minimalist - September 20, 2011 at 9:58 pm
RE: Lying to your children - by MilesTailsPrower - September 20, 2011 at 4:09 pm
RE: Lying to your children - by Erinome - September 20, 2011 at 8:06 pm
RE: Lying to your children - by MilesTailsPrower - September 20, 2011 at 9:00 pm
RE: Lying to your children - by padraic - September 20, 2011 at 7:16 pm
RE: Lying to your children - by Aegrus - September 20, 2011 at 8:13 pm
RE: Lying to your children - by IATIA - September 20, 2011 at 7:44 pm
RE: Lying to your children - by xxxtobymac - September 20, 2011 at 8:41 pm
RE: Lying to your children - by R-e-n-n-a-t - September 22, 2011 at 6:39 pm
RE: Lying to your children - by SleepingDemon - September 22, 2011 at 7:24 pm
RE: Lying to your children - by Zaki Aminu - September 28, 2011 at 2:15 pm
RE: Lying to your children - by ElDinero - September 28, 2011 at 2:18 pm
RE: Lying to your children - by Zaki Aminu - September 28, 2011 at 2:59 pm
RE: Lying to your children - by ElDinero - September 28, 2011 at 3:02 pm
RE: Lying to your children - by Zaki Aminu - September 28, 2011 at 4:16 pm
RE: Lying to your children - by The Grand Nudger - September 28, 2011 at 3:15 pm
RE: Lying to your children - by fr0d0 - September 28, 2011 at 4:54 pm
RE: Lying to your children - by The Grand Nudger - September 28, 2011 at 4:34 pm
RE: Lying to your children - by Zaki Aminu - September 28, 2011 at 4:42 pm
RE: Lying to your children - by The Grand Nudger - September 28, 2011 at 4:43 pm
RE: Lying to your children - by Zaki Aminu - September 28, 2011 at 4:49 pm
RE: Lying to your children - by The Grand Nudger - September 28, 2011 at 4:52 pm
RE: Lying to your children - by Zaki Aminu - September 28, 2011 at 5:03 pm
RE: Lying to your children - by The Grand Nudger - September 28, 2011 at 4:55 pm
RE: Lying to your children - by The Grand Nudger - September 28, 2011 at 5:10 pm
RE: Lying to your children - by Zaki Aminu - September 28, 2011 at 5:15 pm
RE: Lying to your children - by Faith No More - September 29, 2011 at 6:07 am
RE: Lying to your children - by Zaki Aminu - September 29, 2011 at 6:11 am
RE: Lying to your children - by The Grand Nudger - September 28, 2011 at 5:17 pm
RE: Lying to your children - by Zaki Aminu - September 29, 2011 at 4:10 am
RE: Lying to your children - by Darwinian - September 29, 2011 at 4:20 am
RE: Lying to your children - by Zaki Aminu - September 29, 2011 at 5:13 am
RE: Lying to your children - by Faith No More - September 29, 2011 at 6:20 am
RE: Lying to your children - by Zaki Aminu - September 29, 2011 at 6:35 am
RE: Lying to your children - by KichigaiNeko - September 29, 2011 at 6:21 am
RE: Lying to your children - by Erinome - September 29, 2011 at 6:39 am

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