(October 4, 2018 at 8:08 am)RoadRunner79 Wrote:Clearly, there are. You get your morals by fiat from an imaginary being. I do not. And equally clearly, you invent an imaginary deity who you then imagine delivers moral dictats that are automagically moral regardless of whether they are moral dictats or not.(October 4, 2018 at 5:27 am)Abaddon_ire Wrote: Where do you get your morals? From your god. You have none of your own.
Do you think that there is a "my morals" and a "your morals"? Do "your morals" apply to me? Is morality something that we just make up or are free to change if it causes issues?
(October 4, 2018 at 8:08 am)RoadRunner79 Wrote: I also don't understand your implied issue with the statement(question) "you have none of your own".To clarify, you have morals of your own which you toss out in favour of whatever you sky fairy happens to capriciously say next
(October 4, 2018 at 8:08 am)RoadRunner79 Wrote: It's like asking, where do you get your physics from.Reality, evidence, replication, the scientific method.
(October 4, 2018 at 8:08 am)RoadRunner79 Wrote: Don't you have your own physics?Clearly not.
(October 4, 2018 at 8:08 am)RoadRunner79 Wrote: Now I have my own view and understanding of physics and morality. But it doesn't start and end with me, for either of them. Hopefully, my understanding of these things matches the reality of the world outside of me.I don't care if you are gullible enough to accept the imaginary words of an imaginary being as your basis for morality.
(October 4, 2018 at 8:08 am)RoadRunner79 Wrote: I don't see where each of us having our own morality is a good thing, and if true, then moral outrage, when another morality doesn't line up with your own is unreasonable.Argument from ignorance.
(October 4, 2018 at 8:08 am)RoadRunner79 Wrote: Even with the theory that society decides morality, you then don't are not a moral authority of your own, meaning that this statement doesn't make sense. And then you can not coherantly complain, if society doesn't grant you rights, that you think are moral, nor can you complain that another society is behaving immortally.And you are wrong. Gay marriage is legal in plenty of jurisdictions. That does not stop the god-botherers pronouncing it to be immoral. Same with extra-marital sex. Same with porn. Etc, etc, etc. Your claim is demonstrably false.
BTW how does one act "immortally".
(October 4, 2018 at 8:08 am)RoadRunner79 Wrote: I see this as an inconsistency in worldview. People say one thing, but haven't really thought through the implications of what that view means. If you think that the world is this way, then I think that your actions should follow accordingly. If you cannot do this, then perhaps you should re-examine your worldview.Except that I do. You claim that my worldview is inconsistent, that I haven't thought through the implications and implied that I cannot follow my own morals accordingly and should therefore re-examine my worldview.
This is a flat out lie. I have not even hinted at my worldview, and you have the arrogance, the hubris to sit there and tell me what I think, how I live, what I ought to do.
Whatever borked deity it is you believe in must be weeping by now. You doing so is in fact immoral.