RE: On the subject of Hell and Salvation
February 8, 2019 at 2:29 pm
(This post was last modified: February 8, 2019 at 2:45 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
I can;t imagine why christians think alot of the things they do...and yet..they do. The christian god notion simply isn't toxic in the way that matters to growth, quite the opposite. Sort of like how putting crack in your cigarretes would probably help you to sell a bunch more..even if it eventually killed the smokers and destroyed the people around them. My comments, again, don;t have much to do with the decency, value, or validity of christian concepts (and even less so their relationship to their fellow abrahamics)..only those sociological effects which constrain or promote growth in movements of any kind.
The decision to seperate christianity from judaism was massively useful...particularly in the case of romans who didn;t much care for jews...and the same effect would repeat itself with the romanization of christian ideology. The metaphoric (and purportedly literal) washing of the hands. They found their market, they tailored their message to that market..and the rest is history.
Jesus and the rest of the characters of the new testament are as much Mr. Clean as they are anything else.
-still continuing, because why not, right? What else is history, is the specific means and avenues by which proto-christianity mobilized it's evangelical effort. Independantly attested to by hostile and in-tradition authors..and most gloriously, in a purported debate between them recorded by later christian authors in which the christian proponent flat out accepts the accusation of the roman opposition. That christians were bribing the under-served and ignorant lower classes with food.
The combination of their message of enhanced inclusiveness and dire warnings of things to come along with the roman failure to adequately address either the poverty or disease particularly endemic to impoverished areas produced the christianity that we know today while devastating the traditional authority structures (the nobility were not spared) and their very claim to authority.
No one seemed to be able to stop the looming end, but at least the christians were giving away little cakes!
The decision to seperate christianity from judaism was massively useful...particularly in the case of romans who didn;t much care for jews...and the same effect would repeat itself with the romanization of christian ideology. The metaphoric (and purportedly literal) washing of the hands. They found their market, they tailored their message to that market..and the rest is history.
Jesus and the rest of the characters of the new testament are as much Mr. Clean as they are anything else.
-still continuing, because why not, right? What else is history, is the specific means and avenues by which proto-christianity mobilized it's evangelical effort. Independantly attested to by hostile and in-tradition authors..and most gloriously, in a purported debate between them recorded by later christian authors in which the christian proponent flat out accepts the accusation of the roman opposition. That christians were bribing the under-served and ignorant lower classes with food.
The combination of their message of enhanced inclusiveness and dire warnings of things to come along with the roman failure to adequately address either the poverty or disease particularly endemic to impoverished areas produced the christianity that we know today while devastating the traditional authority structures (the nobility were not spared) and their very claim to authority.
No one seemed to be able to stop the looming end, but at least the christians were giving away little cakes!
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