(March 6, 2019 at 7:43 am)MilesAbbott81 Wrote:False. Nobody claims the big bang created energy.(March 6, 2019 at 2:06 am)Gae Bolga Wrote: Which natural laws make existence impossible? What is the purpose of equivocating between the supernatural and god?
It isn't so much that there are laws that make existence possible, but that there are laws which preclude the possibility of existence, particularly in the case of the Big Bang. Energy can neither be created nor destroyed (1st law of thermodynamics), therefore existence is impossible, unless you want to argue that the universe isn't a closed system, which the folks on your side would take issue with.
(March 6, 2019 at 7:43 am)MilesAbbott81 Wrote: Then the 2nd law of thermodynamics completely nullifies the possibility of the Big Bang.False. The second law depends on the big bang.
(March 6, 2019 at 7:43 am)MilesAbbott81 Wrote: Of course, I have no doubt in my mind that these arguments aren't new here. I made them myself some time ago.And the answers are the same.
(March 6, 2019 at 7:43 am)MilesAbbott81 Wrote: And I don't really see that I'm equivocating between the supernatural and God. You can call Him what you like; the bottom line is that existence can't be explained by anything other than a supernatural source. There is simply no way, and any attempt to argue the point is an effort in absolute futility.Argument from ignorance.
Bluntly, you present a reformed "god of the gaps" argument, but the gaps are all of your imagining.