(November 19, 2023 at 10:00 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Well shit Tim, you appear to know so little about the subject that I wonder whether you ought to be reading or writing?
All I asked was for you to give examples of this “shitting on discovery”. It’s weird that you keep avoiding this simple and reasonable request. I can’t discuss this until I know precisely what you’re talking about.
Quote:You cant expect anyone to take you seriously if you want to litigate such basic facts of mere reality.
“Litigate”? No. But you do need to explain what these “facts” you’re referring to are.
Quote:Where you don't pretend to draw an absolute blank at the notion of the church as a gatekeeping force in western history, because you're doing real history.
They were pretty active in gatekeeping theological orthodoxy. But not “discoveries”. Which is why you’re working so hard to wriggle away from my quite reasonable request for any examples of the latter.
Quote:Say you spent an hour explaining to silly atheists that the church didn't burn people for one absurd reason, but for another absurd reason, what do you think you will have accomplished.
Accuracy. It’s a key element in rational and objective historical analysis.
