RE: Jaysus effin' Christ!! Santorum on abortion due to rape
January 28, 2012 at 11:54 pm
(This post was last modified: January 29, 2012 at 12:01 am by reverendjeremiah.)
Zen Badger Wrote:Let me expand upon my original post so that there is no confusion.Uh oh...too much expansion and my head may explode. I know, Honey Badger dont give a fuck...He'll eat it anyways,
Quote:If upon finding that she is pregnant for whatever reason, rape, incest or even just as a result of casual unprotected sex then it is that persons indisputable right to terminate that pregancy. How can it not be?First - I would shy away from saying the word "right", as it is very difficult to seperate it from the word "opinion".
Second - I would also shy away from putting the modifier of "indisputable" next to the questionable word of "right" or "rights". Opinions are formed and legislated as "rights". If they can be taken away, then they arent "rights", as such a mixture of terms would suggest they are inherent and universally accepted.
I argue that the person who owns the womb, who sustains the womb with their own lifes blood, and has it as part of their personal and physical constitution can do with it as they deem fit. Just the same as I argue that a person should be allowed to keep or dispose of their ability to conceive as they see fit. Of course this can be legislated against, as just about anything you can imagine can be legislated for or against. An example would be the Eugenics programs that forced mentally inferior citizens to be sterilized. I never said that this would be an easy discussion.
Quote:But if she then carries that foetus for six months what other reason than medical can there be for terminating it?A reason you may not agree with, or may not have expected. Perhaps she lost her job. Perhaps she decided simply that she was wrong in thinking that she wanted a baby. Any reason SHE deems to be reasonable to her at the moment she makes her choice to terminate.
Look at your question. I can easily reword it as; "Why would a woman terminate her pregnancy after 6 months if it was healthy? I wouldnt do it." The issue can go beyond the health of the baby. There are a multitude of reasons that can be brought forth for such a decision. Must we include the courts to "verify" if a personal decision to do with ones own body is "okay"?
Think of the pandoras box opened by legislating a pregnancy. Well, if she cant have an abortion after 6 months for the "its a healthy baby" argument, then why not legislate what she can eat? It is, after all, a new citizen she is forming in her womb. Let us legislate the proper nutrition she must have. What gets me, and I am not saying you are ANYTHING like this, but what gets me is that these pro-life people raise hell about abortion, yet at the same time wish to get rid of welfare and foodstamps, and WIC, etc.. They dont mind you being dirt poor as shit, working 2 jobs and still not getting by, dumping the entire cost of a pregnancy on the mother, but if she decides she cannot abide her pregnancy suddenly its all about "oh, the poor innocent baby! You are a murderer!" Yet all the time they support the rich/poor system, and they support the idea of the kid being just another slum resident, and would even say "yup, more worthless redneck babies", or ""Another nigger baby to rob the liquor store." and so on, and so on...
Im trying to shut pandoras box.
Quote:BTW I don't see the correlation between between late term abortion and a triple bypass.I looked back and realized I was a bit off on my last post. Sorry about that...although it did have a good point. Sadly, it was unrelated to what you posted.