(March 18, 2012 at 7:49 pm)Norfolk And Chance Wrote: Why bother having a real physical life in which you die, to be born into an immaterial, eternal life afterwards.Why not simply be born into eternal heaven, and skip the life/death bit? god sure created things the hard way.The same reason we are told of Adam and Eve's fall from Grace and the Fall of Satan. Because the majority of sentients created in the presents of God as some point in Eternity past, were tempted by sin (anything outside of the expressed will of God.) No matter what God offered them.
Quote:One thing we know about nature and anything is that it always takes the simplest route.We are taking the only route that will yield a solid Heavenly populace of people who want to be with God with every fiber of their being.
Quote:Your god is at complete odds to this. He's made up you know.God is made up because YOU do not understand this fundamental principle?
Quote:So Noah managed to get all the animals onto an unfeasibly small boat within an unfeasibly short timespan (IE within his lifetime) due to god's help? Is that what you are saying? god made the impossible possible? With magic?I am saying the story of the ARK was not about the boat Noah built (Or so say the writer of Hebrews) The Ark was an exercise in the faith needed to save Man from the righteous wrath of God. Again the story is not one of practical logistics. So I can openly and honestly say I do not know what God did exactly, just that He did it.
Quote:How is this different to Santa carrying out the equally impossible task of getting round everyone's house in 24 hours and delivering the right stuff? Well you get told that Santa can do this because he's magic...Santa does not claim to be God.
Where's the difference?