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Evidence Against God
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RE: Evidence Against God
Quote:How does it suggest that a higher power was required? You'll need to demonstrate that this 'god' exists before you can assert that he/it was the cause. Otherwise your argument can't stand. It's like building a house without a foundation.
A house without a foundation is one built of the assumption of no God. Why do you think scientists fail to answer so many questions (especially ones concerning origins)? They rationalized God out of the picture.

Quote:I haven't claimed that god doesn't exist. I simply lack the belief that he does. I don't know whether a god exists or not, I have simply rejected the claim due to inconsistencies and a total lack of evidence. The burden of proof is on you.
You may believe that you do not claim that God does not exist (through rationalization). But I am aware of the "weak" atheist position. You accept nonexistence by default. However, nonexistence is not the default position. It parallels the position of the prosecutor who must prove beyond a shadow of reasonable doubt a guilty verdict (nonexistence). Based on what is required to prove this position (all possible evidence or at least all known evidence definitively backing this position) it holds the burden of proof.

Quote:The evidence and understanding of the cosmos actually shows that a god isn't required. Doesn't disprove god, it demonstrates that he isn't needed.
What exactly do you mean by the evidence shows that He isn't needed? How so? This sounds like a bunch of rationalization of naturalism.

Quote:Can't disprove what hasn't been proven. Try and disprove the tea pot that's orbiting the sun or the invisible dragon in my garage.
What are you saying? Let's not go in circles my friend. The evidence and understanding of the cosmos suggest a beginning of the universe. Either God did it or He didn't. What do you suppose?

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Evidence Against God - by genkaus - April 13, 2012 at 11:24 am
RE: Evidence Against God - by NoMoreFaith - April 13, 2012 at 11:28 am
RE: Evidence Against God - by Pearls a stinger - April 13, 2012 at 11:45 am
RE: Evidence Against God - by Ace Otana - April 13, 2012 at 11:52 am
RE: Evidence Against God - by Adjusted Sanity - April 13, 2012 at 12:00 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Norfolk And Chance - April 13, 2012 at 12:15 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Adjusted Sanity - April 13, 2012 at 1:13 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Norfolk And Chance - April 13, 2012 at 1:18 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Phil - April 13, 2012 at 2:26 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Norfolk And Chance - April 13, 2012 at 2:48 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Phil - April 13, 2012 at 2:51 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by jackman - April 13, 2012 at 7:35 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Phil - April 13, 2012 at 9:58 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by SophiaGrace - April 13, 2012 at 12:10 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Norfolk And Chance - April 13, 2012 at 12:11 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Neo-Scholastic - April 13, 2012 at 12:12 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by downbeatplumb - April 13, 2012 at 12:26 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Neo-Scholastic - April 13, 2012 at 1:55 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Ace Otana - April 13, 2012 at 12:13 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Welsh cake - April 13, 2012 at 1:59 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Norfolk And Chance - April 13, 2012 at 2:04 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Welsh cake - April 13, 2012 at 2:17 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by The Grand Nudger - April 13, 2012 at 2:41 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by The Grand Nudger - April 13, 2012 at 2:52 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by SophiaGrace - April 13, 2012 at 3:30 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by genkaus - April 13, 2012 at 7:08 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Neo-Scholastic - April 13, 2012 at 7:23 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by genkaus - April 14, 2012 at 5:32 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Minimalist - April 16, 2012 at 11:48 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Norfolk And Chance - April 13, 2012 at 8:29 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Minimalist - April 13, 2012 at 7:26 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by padraic - April 13, 2012 at 8:19 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Abishalom - April 16, 2012 at 11:04 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Reforged - April 16, 2012 at 11:25 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Abishalom - April 17, 2012 at 3:45 am
RE: Evidence Against God - by FallentoReason - April 17, 2012 at 5:13 am
RE: Evidence Against God - by Ace Otana - April 17, 2012 at 5:24 am
RE: Evidence Against God - by Abishalom - April 17, 2012 at 12:09 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Phil - April 17, 2012 at 12:23 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Abishalom - April 17, 2012 at 12:30 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Phil - April 17, 2012 at 12:37 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Jaysyn - April 17, 2012 at 12:38 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Phil - April 17, 2012 at 12:44 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Jaysyn - April 17, 2012 at 12:47 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Phil - April 17, 2012 at 12:58 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Ace Otana - April 17, 2012 at 12:31 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Abishalom - April 17, 2012 at 12:49 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Jaysyn - April 17, 2012 at 12:53 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Abishalom - April 17, 2012 at 12:57 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Jaysyn - April 17, 2012 at 1:02 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Abishalom - April 17, 2012 at 1:20 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Paul the Human - April 17, 2012 at 1:22 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Abishalom - April 17, 2012 at 1:26 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Ace Otana - April 17, 2012 at 1:00 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Abishalom - April 17, 2012 at 1:14 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Ace Otana - April 17, 2012 at 1:20 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by genkaus - April 17, 2012 at 1:53 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Abishalom - April 17, 2012 at 2:08 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by genkaus - April 17, 2012 at 3:50 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Abishalom - April 17, 2012 at 4:18 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Reforged - April 17, 2012 at 4:34 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Abishalom - April 17, 2012 at 5:15 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by genkaus - April 17, 2012 at 5:23 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Reforged - April 17, 2012 at 5:27 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Abishalom - April 17, 2012 at 5:38 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by genkaus - April 17, 2012 at 6:01 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Reforged - April 17, 2012 at 6:02 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Abishalom - April 17, 2012 at 7:09 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Reforged - April 17, 2012 at 7:29 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Abishalom - April 17, 2012 at 7:38 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by genkaus - April 17, 2012 at 7:41 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Reforged - April 17, 2012 at 7:51 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by genkaus - April 17, 2012 at 4:36 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Ace Otana - April 17, 2012 at 4:46 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Cyberman - April 20, 2012 at 11:51 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Abishalom - April 20, 2012 at 11:54 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Reforged - April 17, 2012 at 2:57 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Abishalom - April 17, 2012 at 3:35 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Reforged - April 17, 2012 at 3:49 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Abishalom - April 17, 2012 at 4:01 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Reforged - April 17, 2012 at 4:12 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by genkaus - April 17, 2012 at 1:04 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by mediamogul - April 16, 2012 at 11:26 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Adjusted Sanity - April 16, 2012 at 11:30 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by mediamogul - April 16, 2012 at 11:37 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Adjusted Sanity - April 16, 2012 at 11:51 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by padraic - April 17, 2012 at 12:16 am
RE: Evidence Against God - by Adjusted Sanity - April 17, 2012 at 12:34 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Paul the Human - April 17, 2012 at 1:30 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Abishalom - April 17, 2012 at 1:33 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Paul the Human - April 17, 2012 at 1:39 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Abishalom - April 17, 2012 at 1:43 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Jaysyn - April 17, 2012 at 3:33 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Ace Otana - April 17, 2012 at 1:35 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Abishalom - April 17, 2012 at 1:37 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Ace Otana - April 17, 2012 at 1:44 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Abishalom - April 17, 2012 at 1:54 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Ace Otana - April 17, 2012 at 2:04 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by mediamogul - April 17, 2012 at 3:44 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Faith No More - April 17, 2012 at 2:33 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Abishalom - April 17, 2012 at 3:26 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by downbeatplumb - April 17, 2012 at 2:43 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Faith No More - April 17, 2012 at 3:40 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Abishalom - April 17, 2012 at 3:54 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Reforged - April 17, 2012 at 3:56 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by mediamogul - April 17, 2012 at 4:27 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Abishalom - April 17, 2012 at 4:32 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by mediamogul - April 17, 2012 at 7:39 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Abishalom - April 19, 2012 at 12:25 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Faith No More - April 17, 2012 at 3:57 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by The Grand Nudger - April 17, 2012 at 4:27 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by The Grand Nudger - April 17, 2012 at 5:18 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by The Grand Nudger - April 17, 2012 at 5:59 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by The Grand Nudger - April 17, 2012 at 7:11 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Abishalom - April 17, 2012 at 7:25 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by The Grand Nudger - April 17, 2012 at 7:36 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Paul the Human - April 17, 2012 at 9:02 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by The Grand Nudger - April 17, 2012 at 9:21 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Garpike34 - April 19, 2012 at 5:20 am
RE: Evidence Against God - by FallentoReason - April 19, 2012 at 5:31 am
RE: Evidence Against God - by Reforged - April 19, 2012 at 5:51 am
RE: Evidence Against God - by FallentoReason - April 19, 2012 at 6:27 am
RE: Evidence Against God - by Reforged - April 19, 2012 at 7:27 am
RE: Evidence Against God - by The Grand Nudger - April 19, 2012 at 3:19 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Minimalist - April 19, 2012 at 3:45 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Welsh cake - April 19, 2012 at 3:58 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Abishalom - April 20, 2012 at 10:28 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by frankiej - April 20, 2012 at 10:39 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Welsh cake - April 20, 2012 at 11:03 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Abishalom - April 20, 2012 at 11:19 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Welsh cake - April 20, 2012 at 11:37 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Cyberman - April 21, 2012 at 12:01 am
RE: Evidence Against God - by Abishalom - April 21, 2012 at 12:19 am
RE: Evidence Against God - by Phil - April 21, 2012 at 12:25 am
RE: Evidence Against God - by Ace Otana - April 21, 2012 at 8:02 am
RE: Evidence Against God - by Cyberman - April 21, 2012 at 12:34 am
RE: Evidence Against God - by padraic - April 21, 2012 at 1:09 am
RE: Evidence Against God - by simplexity - April 21, 2012 at 1:19 am

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