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Evidence Against God
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RE: Evidence Against God
(April 17, 2012 at 2:33 pm)Faith No More Wrote: Not true. All that would have to be proven was that the evidence did not conclusively point to a god existing. This would mean the logical conclusion would be to lack a belief in god, which is exactly what being an atheist entails.
That's false. To prove definitively nonexistence of God you have to evaluate all evidence and it must be unanimous. Why? Because to prove a negative conjecture (nonexistence) you must exhaust through all possible evidence. You're trying to reverse roles. My stance is not to convince you whether God exist or not. It is my belief that He does. To take nonexistence as the default position you would have go through all known evidence (since we do not have all possible evidence) and unanimously prove this position. Even if that were the case. Can you prove that any evidence proves that that the universe and all matter in it was not created (without rationalization)?

Quote:Being that it was written by men living thousands of years ago with little to no working knowledge of the cosmos, they got everything completely wrong from a scientific standpoint.
You're right in that it was written thousands of years ago. But you did not honestly contemplate my question. I did not ask for your rationalization of it. I asked for a logical reason for why modern science theories on origins are diametrically opposed (exactly opposite) to the biblical account.


(April 17, 2012 at 2:43 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: Is this person saying that babies exit the womb believing in god?

If so them I am an oddity for I never believed in god.

The default position for me has always been non-belief.

It know that the thought process that leads to a god is a childlike thought process.

the argument goes like this.

Fish live in water

So

The purpose of water is to be where fish can live

Something gave water that purpose and made it so the fish could inhabit it

Therefore god

Assigning things 'purpose' stops having to think too deeply about them.
You learned this line of reasoning as you grew older. My point in posting the article was to demonstrate that by default we believe that things have a purpose, there some higher form intelligence than us etc. As you got older you may have been able to condition yourself away from this predisposition, but it never changes the fact that humans naturally have this kind of perception of the world around them.

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Evidence Against God - by genkaus - April 13, 2012 at 11:24 am
RE: Evidence Against God - by NoMoreFaith - April 13, 2012 at 11:28 am
RE: Evidence Against God - by Pearls a stinger - April 13, 2012 at 11:45 am
RE: Evidence Against God - by Ace Otana - April 13, 2012 at 11:52 am
RE: Evidence Against God - by Adjusted Sanity - April 13, 2012 at 12:00 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Norfolk And Chance - April 13, 2012 at 12:15 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Adjusted Sanity - April 13, 2012 at 1:13 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Norfolk And Chance - April 13, 2012 at 1:18 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Phil - April 13, 2012 at 2:26 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Norfolk And Chance - April 13, 2012 at 2:48 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Phil - April 13, 2012 at 2:51 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by jackman - April 13, 2012 at 7:35 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Phil - April 13, 2012 at 9:58 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by SophiaGrace - April 13, 2012 at 12:10 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Norfolk And Chance - April 13, 2012 at 12:11 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Neo-Scholastic - April 13, 2012 at 12:12 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by downbeatplumb - April 13, 2012 at 12:26 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Neo-Scholastic - April 13, 2012 at 1:55 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Ace Otana - April 13, 2012 at 12:13 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Welsh cake - April 13, 2012 at 1:59 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Norfolk And Chance - April 13, 2012 at 2:04 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Welsh cake - April 13, 2012 at 2:17 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by The Grand Nudger - April 13, 2012 at 2:41 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by The Grand Nudger - April 13, 2012 at 2:52 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by SophiaGrace - April 13, 2012 at 3:30 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by genkaus - April 13, 2012 at 7:08 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Neo-Scholastic - April 13, 2012 at 7:23 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by genkaus - April 14, 2012 at 5:32 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Minimalist - April 16, 2012 at 11:48 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Norfolk And Chance - April 13, 2012 at 8:29 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Minimalist - April 13, 2012 at 7:26 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by padraic - April 13, 2012 at 8:19 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Abishalom - April 16, 2012 at 11:04 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Reforged - April 16, 2012 at 11:25 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Abishalom - April 17, 2012 at 3:45 am
RE: Evidence Against God - by FallentoReason - April 17, 2012 at 5:13 am
RE: Evidence Against God - by Ace Otana - April 17, 2012 at 5:24 am
RE: Evidence Against God - by Abishalom - April 17, 2012 at 12:09 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Phil - April 17, 2012 at 12:23 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Abishalom - April 17, 2012 at 12:30 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Phil - April 17, 2012 at 12:37 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Jaysyn - April 17, 2012 at 12:38 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Phil - April 17, 2012 at 12:44 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Jaysyn - April 17, 2012 at 12:47 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Phil - April 17, 2012 at 12:58 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Ace Otana - April 17, 2012 at 12:31 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Abishalom - April 17, 2012 at 12:49 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Jaysyn - April 17, 2012 at 12:53 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Abishalom - April 17, 2012 at 12:57 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Jaysyn - April 17, 2012 at 1:02 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Abishalom - April 17, 2012 at 1:20 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Paul the Human - April 17, 2012 at 1:22 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Abishalom - April 17, 2012 at 1:26 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Ace Otana - April 17, 2012 at 1:00 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Abishalom - April 17, 2012 at 1:14 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Ace Otana - April 17, 2012 at 1:20 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by genkaus - April 17, 2012 at 1:53 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Abishalom - April 17, 2012 at 2:08 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by genkaus - April 17, 2012 at 3:50 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Abishalom - April 17, 2012 at 4:18 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Reforged - April 17, 2012 at 4:34 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Abishalom - April 17, 2012 at 5:15 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by genkaus - April 17, 2012 at 5:23 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Reforged - April 17, 2012 at 5:27 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Abishalom - April 17, 2012 at 5:38 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by genkaus - April 17, 2012 at 6:01 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Reforged - April 17, 2012 at 6:02 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Abishalom - April 17, 2012 at 7:09 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Reforged - April 17, 2012 at 7:29 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Abishalom - April 17, 2012 at 7:38 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by genkaus - April 17, 2012 at 7:41 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Reforged - April 17, 2012 at 7:51 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by genkaus - April 17, 2012 at 4:36 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Ace Otana - April 17, 2012 at 4:46 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Cyberman - April 20, 2012 at 11:51 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Abishalom - April 20, 2012 at 11:54 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Reforged - April 17, 2012 at 2:57 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Abishalom - April 17, 2012 at 3:35 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Reforged - April 17, 2012 at 3:49 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Abishalom - April 17, 2012 at 4:01 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Reforged - April 17, 2012 at 4:12 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by genkaus - April 17, 2012 at 1:04 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by mediamogul - April 16, 2012 at 11:26 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Adjusted Sanity - April 16, 2012 at 11:30 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by mediamogul - April 16, 2012 at 11:37 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Adjusted Sanity - April 16, 2012 at 11:51 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by padraic - April 17, 2012 at 12:16 am
RE: Evidence Against God - by Adjusted Sanity - April 17, 2012 at 12:34 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Paul the Human - April 17, 2012 at 1:30 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Abishalom - April 17, 2012 at 1:33 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Paul the Human - April 17, 2012 at 1:39 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Abishalom - April 17, 2012 at 1:43 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Jaysyn - April 17, 2012 at 3:33 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Ace Otana - April 17, 2012 at 1:35 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Abishalom - April 17, 2012 at 1:37 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Ace Otana - April 17, 2012 at 1:44 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Abishalom - April 17, 2012 at 1:54 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Ace Otana - April 17, 2012 at 2:04 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by mediamogul - April 17, 2012 at 3:44 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Faith No More - April 17, 2012 at 2:33 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Abishalom - April 17, 2012 at 3:26 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by downbeatplumb - April 17, 2012 at 2:43 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Faith No More - April 17, 2012 at 3:40 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Abishalom - April 17, 2012 at 3:54 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Reforged - April 17, 2012 at 3:56 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by mediamogul - April 17, 2012 at 4:27 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Abishalom - April 17, 2012 at 4:32 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by mediamogul - April 17, 2012 at 7:39 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Abishalom - April 19, 2012 at 12:25 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Faith No More - April 17, 2012 at 3:57 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by The Grand Nudger - April 17, 2012 at 4:27 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by The Grand Nudger - April 17, 2012 at 5:18 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by The Grand Nudger - April 17, 2012 at 5:59 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by The Grand Nudger - April 17, 2012 at 7:11 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Abishalom - April 17, 2012 at 7:25 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by The Grand Nudger - April 17, 2012 at 7:36 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Paul the Human - April 17, 2012 at 9:02 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by The Grand Nudger - April 17, 2012 at 9:21 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Garpike34 - April 19, 2012 at 5:20 am
RE: Evidence Against God - by FallentoReason - April 19, 2012 at 5:31 am
RE: Evidence Against God - by Reforged - April 19, 2012 at 5:51 am
RE: Evidence Against God - by FallentoReason - April 19, 2012 at 6:27 am
RE: Evidence Against God - by Reforged - April 19, 2012 at 7:27 am
RE: Evidence Against God - by The Grand Nudger - April 19, 2012 at 3:19 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Minimalist - April 19, 2012 at 3:45 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Welsh cake - April 19, 2012 at 3:58 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Abishalom - April 20, 2012 at 10:28 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by frankiej - April 20, 2012 at 10:39 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Welsh cake - April 20, 2012 at 11:03 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Abishalom - April 20, 2012 at 11:19 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Welsh cake - April 20, 2012 at 11:37 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Cyberman - April 21, 2012 at 12:01 am
RE: Evidence Against God - by Abishalom - April 21, 2012 at 12:19 am
RE: Evidence Against God - by Phil - April 21, 2012 at 12:25 am
RE: Evidence Against God - by Ace Otana - April 21, 2012 at 8:02 am
RE: Evidence Against God - by Cyberman - April 21, 2012 at 12:34 am
RE: Evidence Against God - by padraic - April 21, 2012 at 1:09 am
RE: Evidence Against God - by simplexity - April 21, 2012 at 1:19 am

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