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JESUS CHRIST: Myth or Historical Person?
RE: JESUS CHRIST: Myth or Historical Person?
(May 13, 2012 at 1:29 pm)Thor Wrote:
(May 13, 2012 at 12:55 pm)Alter2Ego Wrote: I'm trying to keep this thread on the topic of Jesus Christ's historicity.

Then please produce some evidence that Jesus actually existed. And I'm talking about historical documents and writings that mention Jesus from the time he was supposedly alive.

Good luck with that.
ALTER2EGO -to- THOR:
Let me remind you that Cornelius Tacitus lived through the reign of at least four different Roman emperors and earned the reputation as "the greatest historian of his era." He had to have been an outstanding historian in order to be singled out and given such recognition.

Again, a historian does not have to live in the same century as the people he or she is reporting on. All that's required is access to credible documentation such as government records and the like. This was the case with Cornelius Tacitus. Below are some of the sources from which he got his historical data, quoted verbatim, along with the weblink to the website where I got the info from.


WHERE DID CORNELIUS TACTITUS GET HIS INFO?

Quote:The sources of Tacitus
Tacitus used the official sources of the Roman state: the acta senatus (the minutes of the session of the Senate) and the acta diurna populi Romani (a collection of the acts of the government and news of the court and capital). He read collections of emperors' speeches, such as Tiberius and Claudius. Generally, Tacitus was a scrupulous historian who paid careful attention to his historical works. The minor inaccuracies in the Annals may be due to Tacitus dying before finishing (and therefore final proofreading) of this work. He used a variety of historical and literary sources; he used them freely and he chose from sources of varied opinions.
http://www.tititudorancea.org/z/tacitus.htm


CONFIRMATION THAT TACITUS WROTE ABOUT CHRIST:
Quote:The Annals
The Annals was Tacitus' final work, covering the period from the death of Augustus Caesar in 14 AD. He wrote at least sixteen books, but books 7–10 and parts of books 5, 6, 11 and 16 are missing. Book 6 ends with the death of Tiberius and books 7–12 presumably covered the reigns of Caligula and Claudius. The remaining books cover the reign of Nero, perhaps until his death in June 68 or until the end of that year, to connect with the [BHistories. The second half of book 16 is missing (ending with the events of 66). We do not know whether Tacitus completed the work or whether he finished the other works that he had planned to write; he died before he could complete his planned histories of Nerva and Trajan, and no record survives of the work on Augustus Caesar and the beginnings of the Empire with which he had planned to finish his work. The Annals is also among the first-known secular-historic records to mention Jesus (see Tacitus on Christ), which Tacitus does so in connection with Nero's persecution of the Christians.
http://www.tititudorancea.org/z/tacitus.htm
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JESUS CHRIST: Myth or Historical Person? - by Alter2Ego - April 13, 2012 at 7:57 pm
RE: JESUS CHRIST: Myth or Historical Person? - by Cinjin - April 13, 2012 at 8:06 pm
RE: JESUS CHRIST: Myth or Historical Person? - by Cinjin - April 14, 2012 at 12:29 am
RE: JESUS CHRIST: Myth or Historical Person? - by Thor - April 30, 2012 at 11:50 am
RE: JESUS CHRIST: Myth or Historical Person? - by Thor - May 14, 2012 at 12:11 am
RE: JESUS CHRIST: Myth or Historical Person? - by Phil - May 14, 2012 at 9:37 am
RE: JESUS CHRIST: Myth or Historical Person? - by Phil - April 13, 2012 at 10:17 pm
RE: JESUS CHRIST: Myth or Historical Person? - by padraic - April 13, 2012 at 10:51 pm
RE: JESUS CHRIST: Myth or Historical Person? - by Cinjin - April 14, 2012 at 12:40 am
RE: JESUS CHRIST: Myth or Historical Person? - by Phil - April 14, 2012 at 10:46 am
RE: JESUS CHRIST: Myth or Historical Person? - by Bgood - April 14, 2012 at 12:55 am
RE: JESUS CHRIST: Myth or Historical Person? - by Thor - April 30, 2012 at 12:12 pm
RE: JESUS CHRIST: Myth or Historical Person? - by Phil - April 15, 2012 at 9:03 am
RE: JESUS CHRIST: Myth or Historical Person? - by Phil - April 15, 2012 at 9:20 am
RE: JESUS CHRIST: Myth or Historical Person? - by Phil - April 15, 2012 at 5:32 pm
RE: JESUS CHRIST: Myth or Historical Person? - by Phil - April 15, 2012 at 6:05 pm
RE: JESUS CHRIST: Myth or Historical Person? - by Phil - April 15, 2012 at 8:56 am
RE: JESUS CHRIST: Myth or Historical Person? - by Cinjin - April 15, 2012 at 1:17 pm
RE: JESUS CHRIST: Myth or Historical Person? - by Bgood - April 15, 2012 at 9:36 pm
RE: JESUS CHRIST: Myth or Historical Person? - by Reforged - April 16, 2012 at 12:02 am
RE: JESUS CHRIST: Myth or Historical Person? - by Thor - April 16, 2012 at 10:24 am
RE: JESUS CHRIST: Myth or Historical Person? - by Phil - April 16, 2012 at 10:26 am
RE: JESUS CHRIST: Myth or Historical Person? - by Phil - April 17, 2012 at 11:33 am
RE: JESUS CHRIST: Myth or Historical Person? - by Phil - April 17, 2012 at 12:01 pm
RE: JESUS CHRIST: Myth or Historical Person? - by lullaby - April 24, 2012 at 6:43 am
RE: JESUS CHRIST: Myth or Historical Person? - by lullaby - April 24, 2012 at 7:26 am
RE: JESUS CHRIST: Myth or Historical Person? - by Thor - April 24, 2012 at 6:03 pm
RE: JESUS CHRIST: Myth or Historical Person? - by padraic - April 24, 2012 at 8:30 pm
RE: JESUS CHRIST: Myth or Historical Person? - by padraic - April 24, 2012 at 11:12 pm
RE: JESUS CHRIST: Myth or Historical Person? - by padraic - April 28, 2012 at 10:51 pm
RE: JESUS CHRIST: Myth or Historical Person? - by Thor - May 13, 2012 at 1:29 pm
RE: JESUS CHRIST: Myth or Historical Person? - by Alter2Ego - May 22, 2012 at 12:29 pm
RE: JESUS CHRIST: Myth or Historical Person? - by Thor - June 2, 2012 at 2:53 pm
RE: JESUS CHRIST: Myth or Historical Person? - by Shell B - April 30, 2012 at 10:03 pm
RE: JESUS CHRIST: Myth or Historical Person? - by Thor - May 14, 2012 at 10:19 am
RE: JESUS CHRIST: Myth or Historical Person? - by Phil - May 14, 2012 at 10:30 am
RE: JESUS CHRIST: Myth or Historical Person? - by Thor - May 15, 2012 at 5:46 pm
RE: JESUS CHRIST: Myth or Historical Person? - by Thor - May 16, 2012 at 10:29 am
RE: JESUS CHRIST: Myth or Historical Person? - by toro - May 16, 2012 at 8:42 pm
RE: JESUS CHRIST: Myth or Historical Person? - by Phil - May 16, 2012 at 8:31 pm

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