RE: Questions For You Non Believers
November 18, 2012 at 12:09 am
(This post was last modified: November 18, 2012 at 12:15 am by Aractus.)
(November 17, 2012 at 6:10 am)Kousbroek Wrote: You are defending a ... 'person' who stated : "don't Atheists know that you can't have morality without God?"So what? It's hardly a personal attack on atheists, he's just expressing his own opinion. Many Christians have lacking morals in my opinion, and I don't mind saying so, doesn't that mean that I'm disagreeing with his statement? To an extent, however Christianity still builds good morals. I know someone - who doesn't know I'm an Anglican - who is an atheist, but has told me that out of all Christians he absolutely hates Catholics, but he has a great deal of respect for Anglicans because they have "Christian morals".
Now if he as an atheist can appreciate Christian morals, that means that Christianity does have morals and bring them to their followers. So yes, atheists have morals, just about everyone does. Christianity improves upon those, and it certainly doesn't diminish any existing morals. So you have no reason to be angry about a statement like "Atheists can't have morality without God" because I know at least one atheist who recognizes that Christianity does deliver morals.
(November 17, 2012 at 10:03 am)whateverist Wrote: I've always said it doesn't take a genius to be an atheist. This isn't rocket science. I too have seen atheists stoop to pick apart straw arguments which seem to miss a poster's real point. So being an atheist confers neither superior intelligence nor nobler intent.Hey nice post.
But the sorts of literalism associated with religious fundamentalism really do seem to require a stunted intelligence and so often go hand in glove with bias and disingenuousness. I wouldn't paint every theist with the same brush however. There have been too many examples of exemplary individuals who somehow embrace religious faith. They just seem exceedingly rare.
This may explain it to you:
“Enter by the narrow gate. For the gate is wide and the way is easy that leads to destruction, and those who enter by it are many. For the gate is narrow and the way is hard that leads to life, and those who find it are few. (Matt 7:13-14)
And this:
Now the Spirit expressly says that in later times some will depart from the faith by devoting themselves to deceitful spirits and teachings of demons, through the insincerity of liars whose consciences are seared, who forbid marriage and require abstinence from foods that God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth. (1 Tim 4:1-3)