Evidence?

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Well I expect to back up your assertions not simply say I'm wrong and then not justify that. I don't expect you to make completely irrational statements and then repeat them blindly with no justification when challenged. I expect you to concede where you are wrong, and me to concede where I am wrong. I don't expect you to cut and run like this.

I do not recall every saying that you are wrong. You shared your views and I shared mine. There is no right or wrong. I am not cutting and running. I feel that this is a dead-end because we will not reach an agreement. We each have different views. You just keep attacking me for no reason. :S

You haven't stated an argument. All you've done is make unsupported assertions. Show me where God is "indecisive". Show me how you do not have free will. ...You have asserted these seemingly completely irrational assertions yet no where justify them, despite repeated request to do so.

You say we exchange ideas and try to understand but you get so worked up and keep calling me irrational. I highly doubt mutual understanding will ever succeed. Ironically, between the two of us, I'm not the one getting all angry and upset. Sure it is frustrating that I can't get you to understand what I am saying but that is no cause for me to be upset.

As I said before, your views on this entire matter are christian-based or religion-based, whichever you prefer to call it. My views are of my own and nothing/nobody else. When you tell me god does give you free will but condemns you to hell for not believing in him anyway, I call that indecisive. You can what I said "irrational" or any other word that assists in defending what you believe, but this is my own point of view.

You still seriously don't get it. You choose to use your own personal thoughts as guidance rather than an already formulated one. This is the default position. Everybody starts and mostly stays in this position.

You are viewing this discussion in your personal thoughts and I view it in mine. Hence we will never reach an agreement. However, remember this, God cannot be proven nor disproven.

I will gladly state that you are not wrong. Neither am I. There is no right or wrong.

Well the idea of a discussion is we try to explain our thoughts and understand someone else's. You say that you can state that I am not wrong. I can't state the same about your idea because you won't explain it. This is my frustration.

You haven't addressed my point above that God is a prescript for healthy life. Whatever you do under your own steam can only hope to reach that perfection in the rarest of cases. Why leave it to chance when you can easily reach perfection?

I answered you already:

You see you are saying that going against god is deemed "unhealthy" but I am very much alive and physically healthy, though not as fit as I would like to be but to me going against god is me just minding my own business and living my life my way.

I did cut out the next sentence from that paragraph of my quote because it isn't exactly relevant to your question but the rest above very much so is.

So therefore you understand God and you understand how we have free will and you also understand how God isn't indecisive. You retract your statements?

I understand that you consider what you have said to make sense, even though it does not to me.