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what is god actually
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RE: what is god actually
(September 28, 2009 at 12:15 pm)Rhizomorph13 Wrote: Retorth,

I think Sae and I agree. I am speaking philosophically from my understanding of science. I think Void is just adding some additional knowledge, not speaking against a six dimensional model of reality. To say time is a dimension does not negate that it is three.

Sae and Void,

Please correct me if I am wrong.

Rhizo

I don't know where you got your 6-dimensional model from... seems to be more of a philosophical musing rather than scientific hypothesis am i correct?

My understanding of time is of 3 dimensions of space x,y and z and a fourth dimension of time (t), this is what Darwinians avatar is about, a visual illustration of 4-dimensional space time. To say time is 3 dimensional is plain wrong, time is a single axis of movement and while multiple instances of time exist they would be different 4-dimensional inferences in higher dimension, dimensions of time curled up as infinite loops (of which our own time may be only one of a potentially infinite amount) and each loop would contain a different causal story of time within our universe.

When you think of dimensions it is helpful to start at the bottom and look at each one proceeding as a 'higher dimension' with a certain set of instructions, such as in a single dimension you can only move on X, back and forward but in a 2 dimensional model you can move on X and Y etc... so:

1 = +/-X
2 = +/-(X,Y)
3 = +/-(X,Y,X)
4 = +/-(X,Y,Z,T)

...etc

By the time we get to the fourth dimension we are able to move in (or see) 4 dimensions, if we were able to perceive the dimension of time it would be like seeing a trail of your own being showing where you had been and where you were going, everything would have another dimension of movement. Being 3 dimensional beings we only perceive 3 dimensional reality and can only imply time through it's effect (ie, why does anything change at all?).

String theory postulates 11 dimensions, which is beyond confusing, it is suspected that many dimensions are closed loops and represent other self contained 4 dimensional universes of space and time. The highest dimension (11) would contain all of the other dimensions, like 11 directions of movement from that perspective.

It's all pretty mind boggling (and still very hypothetical)
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what is god actually - by theblindferrengi - September 15, 2009 at 9:26 pm
RE: what is god actually - by Violet - September 15, 2009 at 9:31 pm
RE: what is god actually - by theblindferrengi - September 15, 2009 at 9:40 pm
RE: what is god actually - by Violet - September 15, 2009 at 9:42 pm
RE: what is god actually - by Tiberius - September 15, 2009 at 10:15 pm
RE: what is god actually - by Eilonnwy - September 15, 2009 at 10:53 pm
RE: what is god actually - by Violet - September 15, 2009 at 11:04 pm
RE: what is god actually - by Eilonnwy - September 15, 2009 at 11:07 pm
RE: what is god actually - by Violet - September 15, 2009 at 11:22 pm
RE: what is god actually - by theblindferrengi - September 15, 2009 at 11:38 pm
RE: what is god actually - by Violet - September 15, 2009 at 11:42 pm
RE: what is god actually - by theblindferrengi - September 15, 2009 at 11:45 pm
RE: what is god actually - by fr0d0 - September 16, 2009 at 3:51 am
RE: what is god actually - by mike0001 - September 16, 2009 at 9:12 am
RE: what is god actually - by fr0d0 - September 16, 2009 at 1:11 pm
RE: what is god actually - by theblindferrengi - September 16, 2009 at 9:46 am
RE: what is god actually - by Tiberius - September 16, 2009 at 12:53 pm
RE: what is god actually - by Edwardo Piet - September 16, 2009 at 1:26 pm
RE: what is god actually - by theblindferrengi - September 18, 2009 at 2:31 am
RE: what is god actually - by Tiberius - September 18, 2009 at 3:51 am
RE: what is god actually - by theblindferrengi - September 21, 2009 at 10:12 pm
RE: what is god actually - by InfidelRudy - September 18, 2009 at 8:17 am
RE: what is god actually - by Guerilla Radio - September 18, 2009 at 9:24 am
RE: what is god actually - by Edwardo Piet - September 18, 2009 at 9:48 am
RE: what is god actually - by Retorth - September 18, 2009 at 9:58 am
RE: what is god actually - by Edwardo Piet - September 18, 2009 at 10:05 am
RE: what is god actually - by Retorth - September 18, 2009 at 10:19 am
RE: what is god actually - by Edwardo Piet - September 18, 2009 at 10:25 am
RE: what is god actually - by Guerilla Radio - September 18, 2009 at 11:26 am
RE: what is god actually - by Eilonnwy - September 18, 2009 at 11:40 am
RE: what is god actually - by Guerilla Radio - September 19, 2009 at 4:49 am
RE: what is god actually - by Retorth - September 18, 2009 at 11:55 am
RE: what is god actually - by Retorth - September 19, 2009 at 4:54 am
RE: what is god actually - by Guerilla Radio - September 19, 2009 at 5:48 am
RE: what is god actually - by Retorth - September 19, 2009 at 5:54 am
RE: what is god actually - by Guerilla Radio - September 19, 2009 at 6:15 am
RE: what is god actually - by littlegrimlin1 - September 22, 2009 at 9:40 pm
RE: what is god actually - by Guerilla Radio - September 23, 2009 at 6:02 am
RE: what is god actually - by Edwardo Piet - September 23, 2009 at 10:52 am
RE: what is god actually - by Retorth - September 23, 2009 at 10:56 am
RE: what is god actually - by Rhizomorph13 - September 23, 2009 at 11:04 am
RE: what is god actually - by Guerilla Radio - September 23, 2009 at 8:25 pm
RE: what is god actually - by Rhizomorph13 - September 24, 2009 at 11:10 am
RE: what is god actually - by jpayne68177 - September 23, 2009 at 9:45 pm
RE: what is god actually - by Violet - September 28, 2009 at 3:19 am
RE: what is god actually - by theVOID - September 28, 2009 at 3:46 am
RE: what is god actually - by Rhizomorph13 - September 28, 2009 at 11:21 am
RE: what is god actually - by Retorth - September 28, 2009 at 11:50 am
RE: what is god actually - by Rhizomorph13 - September 28, 2009 at 12:15 pm
RE: what is god actually - by theVOID - October 4, 2009 at 6:12 pm
RE: what is god actually - by Retorth - September 28, 2009 at 12:21 pm
RE: what is god actually - by Rhizomorph13 - October 5, 2009 at 12:03 am
RE: what is god actually - by theVOID - October 5, 2009 at 1:38 am
RE: what is god actually - by theblindferrengi - October 5, 2009 at 10:27 am
RE: what is god actually - by Rhizomorph13 - October 5, 2009 at 11:10 am
RE: what is god actually - by theVOID - October 6, 2009 at 4:18 pm
RE: what is god actually - by littlegrimlin1 - October 5, 2009 at 6:00 pm
RE: what is god actually - by Rhizomorph13 - October 5, 2009 at 6:13 pm
RE: what is god actually - by littlegrimlin1 - October 5, 2009 at 6:24 pm
RE: what is god actually - by Rhizomorph13 - October 5, 2009 at 6:28 pm
RE: what is god actually - by theblindferrengi - October 5, 2009 at 7:32 pm
RE: what is god actually - by Rhizomorph13 - October 6, 2009 at 11:21 am
RE: what is god actually - by Rhizomorph13 - October 6, 2009 at 4:28 pm
RE: what is god actually - by theVOID - October 6, 2009 at 5:08 pm
RE: what is god actually - by littlegrimlin1 - October 6, 2009 at 4:44 pm
RE: what is god actually - by Rhizomorph13 - October 6, 2009 at 5:43 pm
RE: what is god actually - by theVOID - October 6, 2009 at 6:08 pm
RE: what is god actually - by Rhizomorph13 - October 6, 2009 at 7:06 pm
RE: what is god actually - by theVOID - October 6, 2009 at 7:16 pm
RE: what is god actually - by littlegrimlin1 - October 6, 2009 at 6:11 pm
RE: what is god actually - by theVOID - October 6, 2009 at 6:57 pm
RE: what is god actually - by Rhizomorph13 - October 6, 2009 at 7:25 pm
RE: what is god actually - by theVOID - October 6, 2009 at 7:27 pm
RE: what is god actually - by theblindferrengi - October 6, 2009 at 8:01 pm
RE: what is god actually - by Rhizomorph13 - October 7, 2009 at 11:28 am
RE: what is god actually - by theblindferrengi - October 7, 2009 at 10:18 pm

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