50 Simple Proofs, God is Imaginary

[solarwave]

There is no "before time". For the word "before" to have any kind of meaning, time must already exist. If time didn't exist at some point (which the Big Bang theory points to), there was no "before". People ask "well what happened before the Big Bang?" erroneously, since if time didn't exist prior to the Big Bang, the question makes no sense.

Ok then, to be literally correct, God existed at the instant time began and was the cause of it by His nauture and power.

If he/it/thing is beyond any scientific method of research then why should I believe in it's existence? If it cannot be proven to exist and have no supporting evidence either then what reason is there to believe it? Should you believe in the easter bunny despite total lack of evidence? Of course not, well its the same for god. Your god is only a concept, an assertion that is unprovable. There is no reason to take the whole god claim seriously, and so I don't.

Im not saying there should be no reason to believe in God, I'm just saying that reason doesn't have to be just scientific, you can open your mind up to knowing things other ways. I don't think you can know God through strick tests but you can use reason and experience to know there is a God.

Honestly... time for us is similar to time for him. Otherwise he could not interact so well with us.

With the whole relativity stuff you were on about, I believe moving faster means time slows down for you therefore it is everyone who would be going to fastforward and you would seem slow to them, part from the fact you are physically moving fast yet aging slow.... I think. If it is relativity you ment. Why do you think God wouldn't be able to interact with us if He is outside time? He would know everything that ever happen on earth at once and at once 'act' on everything and make certain things happen on earth.

Anyway, don't you think it is interesting that he made us to disappoint him at sometimes? And this from a being who created each one of us, and knows everything about each on of us, and knows everything that we will ever say or do... and then wants to hold a 'personal' relationship to us? ^_^ Even odder... he is disappointed by something he designed to happen: what kind of nutcase is this? I could never be disappointed by something I did perfectly

You seem to talk as if I believe God makes us do everything we do. I think God made the best world of most value, but that includes the potential to sin, but even with sin the world is worth making and good, even though there are small bad events in it which on their own are disappointing. I think its more being sad that there has to be sin at this point for the over all good.

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Let's rearrange those verses a little so that you can see my perspective on this solar. From those same verses I am going to pull out key passages to illustrate my point. Man has inherited sin through Adam.

14.Nevertheless, death reigned from the time of Adam to the time of Moses, (even over those who did not sin by breaking a command, as did Adam),.....

When it says 'death' reigned over those who did not sin by breaking a command it doesn't mean they didn't sin, just that the Law hadn't been written yet so there was no written command broken, but they still sinned. I would like to point out that I see death here as meaning spiritual death.

18.Consequently, just as the result of one trespass (Adams disobedience) was condemnation for all men, so also the result of one act of righteousness (Jesus sacrifice) was justification that brings life for all men.
19.For just as through the disobedience of the one man the many were made sinners

I'll explain how I read this. Adams sin didn't directly condemn all, but indirectly. In the same way you can say Robert J Oppenheimer (creator of the nuclear bomb) killed tens of thousands of people, you can say Adam's sin condemned all. But the fact is that Oppenheimer didn't actually kill those people but made the potential possible for it to happen (I think the same can be said of Einstein as I believe E=mc^2 lead to the bomb too). Also Adam's sin gave the potential for everyone after him to sin (the sinful nature). The fact is though that that in that potential everyone failed and sinned, but this is our fault even though Adam make it possible it we are condemned because it is our acting on that potential. So the result of Adam's sin is our condemnation but indirectly not directly.

This also makes more sense when you look at the end of that sentance. It says the sacrific of Jesus brings lifes to all men. This is again another potential as seen above since Jesus' death makes it possible for all people to be saved, but not all people will be saved.