(March 9, 2013 at 4:16 pm)jstrodel Wrote: Because you tolerate it. Look at this thread. Look at how many people are saying it is ok to use ecstasy. Because you present yourself that way, like you are encouraging drug use, which is what you are doing.
And you promote it, in a deeper and more insidious way, when you say it is immoral to believe in God, when you attack Christians that believe in God, when you say that God's existence has been disprove, when you attack every last strand that people are holding on to to tell them how to live a good life, when you try and take away their hope and their strength and what allows them to wake up and not be monsters.
When you say there is no problem with being a nihilist, or you say that it is sufficient to tell people that they must be ethical but not give them any sort of tools to build and ethical system beyond arbitrary categories like happiness or respect for sentient beings. There is no reason to care about those things if you take athiesms seriously intellectually, as I did, if you understand it to imply nihilism, as I did.
The stakes are high. If you don't believe in God, fine, but why encourage drug use? Why tell people that it is immoral or intellectually deficient to believe in God when you don't have anything to put in its place. Supposing that religion was untrue, but given the nihilism of atheism, based on soley utilitarian grounds, couldn't you argue that if religion increased happiness, it was justified? Why not follow that, if all you can. It does increase happiness, but it is also true.
Why try and take peoples faith away from them? Why try to make responsible ecstasy users out of them?
Too many straw men in there for me to even care about arguing.
Enjoy your delusion.
