(March 25, 2013 at 4:45 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: Who will ensure that homemade guns made today on a $2000 programmable CNC will be registered?
The answer is: nobody. It's dealt with after the fact, like the vast majority of law enforcement.
Is that process also as easy as simply printing a gun?
Quote:Do you think the above have any real trouble obtaining real firearms and would need to rely on the unreliable, and very likely unsafe 3D-printable garbage?
Most criminlas and terrorist organisations dont give a damn about where their weapons come from or which qualety they have. The NSU, RAF and various other european terrorist organisations used 1960s czech weapons and sometimes even WW2 equiptment.
The Taliban even uses WW1 rifles.
In the end, the qualety isnt the determening factor, it is the prize.
(March 25, 2013 at 4:50 pm)Tiberius Wrote: Nobody, but then, the point of registering them is to keep track of all the legally owned guns. The government doesn't know about the illegally owned guns; if they did, they would arrest those who had them.
I know your kind likes to use the word "goverment" because it has almoust established itself to be a swearword in the liberterian circles.
Yet in this case the correct term to be used is Law Inforcement which probably is nowhere (but can be) privat.
If law inforcement would stop registering guns it would only create a legal relaim for those who give arms to illegal circles. A gun bought and registered at the local magistrate, which is later found at a murder scene, can be traced back to the owner with the registration number, who than has to stand responsibility and explain why the firearm he purchased was found at a murder scene.
Banning the registration of firearms will create a legal relaim in which people who should own firearms can easily come to those via third persons.
Quote:I guess my point is, criminals don't care about laws in the first place. If you make printing guns illegal, the only people who will do it are criminals, so you don't solve any problem.
Simply stating that "criminals will do crimes anyway" is not a viable exuse to deregulate laws to create a legal relaim. It is actualy a really childish way of seing things.
Lets legalise murder because murderers will murder anyway!
Lets legalise rape because rapists will rape anyway!
Lets legalise speeding because speeders will speed anyway!
It is the purpose of laws to make criminal behavior as difficult as possible, and not to give potential criminals a legal relaim to act within.
Quote:Right, and given that the tech is already available, laws banning it will not affect it. These organisations will still have the capability to print guns.
Who is talking about banning?!?!
Can you show me who is doing that?!
I do simply think that this is troubling and could have dangerous consequences and that therefor: debate should exist over responsible use and how abuse can be prevented.
You should try for once not to think in extremes!
