RE: Conflicting statements in the bible
June 7, 2013 at 7:49 pm
(This post was last modified: June 7, 2013 at 7:55 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(June 7, 2013 at 7:35 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: Rhythm, my old friend, it’s time to dance again I seeThere is no dance to be had, and frankly, I wouldn't touch you at this point.
Quote:Numbskull? Ouch. Aggravating circumstances are up to the judge’s discretion and they often include details about the victim (rapes against a younger child receive harsher punishments than those against older children), and one of those factors is the authority of the victim as I have already demonstrated by example. You’re not fairing very well on this one.Because the crime is compounded by being enacted against a minor -itself another type of crime. The authority of the victim is not a part of our system of law. Please stop insisting that the US be the sort of backwards shithole you seem to dearly wish for it to be.
Quote:I asked you to give me examples of crimes where the authority of the victim left the perp deserving of a greater or lesser sentence. You're telling me now that this isn't about what you think? You don't think that the offender deserved a greater sentence in the case of the cop due to his authority? Then just who are you having a conversation with while you quote me?
It has nothing to do with what I think; I just proved my point. The jury even admitted that was the reason why they recommended the death penalty, looks like you were wrong, oops.
Quote:She certainly received less justice than the cop, eh? You've proven that our system is fallible - which has never been an issue. I don't care what crimes against your god deserve. I'm only reminding you that your gods concept of justice fails to meet our own. Murderers deserve their due process. All people should receive the same treatment under law - that's what equality under the law means. It cuts to both the person committing the crime and the person who the crime is committed against. If you get railroaded for a crime due to the authority of your victim - while an identical crime has been committed by your cellmate against a less important person and this results in a lesser sentence - call a lawyer.
She didn’t receive less justice, justice is served based upon authority in this country; I have proven that. Crimes against a god of infinite authority necessitate a punishment of infinite worth. I am glad to see you think that someone who kills a fellow convicted murderer deserves the same punishment as someone who kills a police officer, that’s pretty sickening.
Quote:It absolutely does, and again I'd never contend that it was infallible. Our standard of justice demands that it does not. Standards of justice aren't proven - they're set.
Our system already operates that way! I have already demonstrated it, now you’re just whining. Unless you can postulate a standard of justice that actually proves that concept is unjust you have absolutely no ground to stand on.
Are we done here?
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