(June 27, 2013 at 5:53 pm)Godschild Wrote: Post like the four above this one is what derails an OP, people parroting the same ol' tired things, why can't you go to scripture and try to disprove what Christians believe. You expect us to go to science to disprove what you believe about evolution, are we asking anything differently than you are, NO we are not. Many atheist have said to me in the last few days they read and study scripture, if that is so then prove it in conversations you have with Christians.
I don't think anyone is attempting to "disprove" what Christians believe. I don't know that such a thing is possible. Christian beliefs don't seem vulnerable to being empirically disproved, nor do they have any potential of being confirmed by any human faculty. Since this appears to be the situation that Christianity finds itself in, it is inevitable to expect others to simpy point out the absurdities that accompany such beliefs. If I worshiped the Sun, you couldn't prove the claims I make about it wrong, but you would probably find it quite easy to throw out little quips that would draw attention to what you think to be foolish. You can believe whatever you want! I also don't know if asking people to refer to your bible for valid objections is at all a reasonable request. Anymore than I could expect you to refer to my magic sunglasses that allow me to see the Sun's omnipotent state.
From a naturalistic standpoint, it seems quite ridiculous to me that you think the bible to be on equal footing with empirical claims of the observable. The observable and confirmable are there to be seen and do not make pretend to be answers for anything that cannot be confirmed. You believe God to be the answer for the things that science has not yet proved. Why exactly should anyone who rejects your theories to fill gaps of ignorance with God be expected to do anything at all to help you prove what you have not been able to prove with your own claims? That seems quite unreasonable. We reject your Bible as a circular support for your God. If you think that there is merit to your God or your Bible you must establish truth in one or the other before you can expect anyone else to acknowledge them as credible sources of truth. My question to you is quite simple:
How do you know that anything the bible says about things not yet proved by science, are true?
I'm asking you a direct question. Before you can expect me to open your book and even read a sentence of it, you will need to provide a good answer to this question with a solid logical foundation.
