Determinism Is Self Defeating

[Red Celt]

Free will is a delusion. A very attractive delusion, but a delusion nonetheless. Of course, we don't like the idea that everything we do was pre-determined as an inevitability at the point of the Big Bang... but if you can't accept that conclusion, you'll have to find a source for your alleged free will.

We are but billiard balls rolling across a green baize - magnified by several levels of complexity. As a materialist, I'd like to see some evidence of the ghost that alters the paths of those balls.

Right but whatever you are saying right now is to convince people to change their minds for determinism, so you are a thousand times more illogical than anyone that believes in free will by your own definition.

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I am attempting to do no such thing. Live in whatever reality bubble that you wish to inhabit. I was just stating some facts - or, more accurately, my interpretation of the available evidence. I may well be wrong. If I am, that hasn't been shown by you... because you clearly don't understand what determinism is.

Falling rocks changing brain chemistry? WTF?

Think of all living entities as machines. Because that's basically what we are. Machines that have evolved, crafted and shaped due to the environments that they (and their ancestors) inhabited.

Now explain where free will comes from.