RE: One question for Christians
July 6, 2013 at 10:41 am
(This post was last modified: July 6, 2013 at 10:44 am by The Reality Salesman01.)
(July 4, 2013 at 8:39 pm)Godschild Wrote: What absurdities, the things you deem that way, why should your opinion dictate what is absurd in scriptures, does my opinion hold less value than your's?.Precisely. Since you offer your opinion to others, it is us, "the others", opinion of what is absurd that you can expect to continue to hear. Your opinion is exactly that, and is no more valuable than mine or anyone else's! (When did I say otherwise?). However, until you strengthen your opinion with a logical argument, it will remain an opinion that sounds absurd to people with a certain standard for truth. Do you understand now?
(July 4, 2013 at 8:39 pm)Godschild Wrote: Well I do think that science would say the sun would not be omnipotent, seeing how it is in a stationary position and can't effect most of the universe. Science has determined it has a limited life.Shame on you GC. You can't honestly expect me to accept that! Who is this "Science" you are referring to? Do you have a good reason to provide from your own data bank of knowledge? How do YOU know that? How do you know that the Sun, being omnipotent, couldn't suspend its powers for a determined amount of time so that it can remain close to us, giving us life, and watching over us? I'm asking you. Don't hide behind answers you don't have or fail to understand.
Texas Wrote:That seems quite unreasonable. We reject your Bible as a circular support for your God. If you think that there is merit to your God or your Bible you must establish truth in one or the other before you can expect anyone else to acknowledge them as credible sources of truth.
(July 4, 2013 at 8:39 pm)Godschild Wrote: The scriptures never try and prove God, so how can you say you can see that the Bible tries to.
Is that what you read? I don't see it. Perhaps its easier to respond to the comments of your choosing, rather than my actual thoughts. Proceed...
(July 4, 2013 at 8:39 pm)Godschild Wrote: Just because you reject the Bible that's suppose to make it false, a bit uppity on your part wouldn't you say.
Again, I don't see where I said that, but I would be happy to clarify for you. I don't believe lots of things. I never said they were false. The bible is among a list of many things of which I don't view as credible sources of information. Are you confusing my words with someone else's? It may be beneficial for you to make sure you are responding to things I actually say.
(July 4, 2013 at 8:39 pm)Godschild Wrote: Try this for truth God promised to restore the nation of Israel where it once stood when Rome destroyed it. The nation of Israel is the only nation restored to it's original place after 2000 yrs. no other nation has come back after that amount of time, this is Biblical prophecy. Just a bit of truth from scripture..Cum hoc ergo propter hoc...You may want to research how this little fallacy can be deceitful to the untrained mind.
Texas Wrote:My question to you is quite simple:
How do you know that anything the bible says about things not yet proved by science, are true?
I'm asking you a direct question. Before you can expect me to open your book and even read a sentence of it, you will need to provide a good answer to this question with a solid logical foundation.
(July 4, 2013 at 8:39 pm)Godschild Wrote: Who are you to demand an answer from me, frankly I couldn't care less if you never responded to any of my post, your uppityness is showing up again.Oh, I do apologize. You must not be aware that when you publically solicit your beliefs, you will sometimes be expected to be able to support them. It is not uncommon to ask for good reasons before accepting a claim as true. In fact, in some circles, it's a requirement and an expected requirement. Some even show proof while presenting their ideas in order to avoid confusion or pesky requests for such a thing. I can see how it can appear to be rude to you, if you are not akin to such formalities and are clearly not familiar with my weird standard for truth. You, of course, do not have to have good reasons to believe anything. But, for future reference, if you are going to solicit your beliefs and ideas around here, you will need to back them up to avoid the sort of ridicule you continue to endure. You have a belief, this belief cannot be proven true or false, because of this, you have no good argument or evidence for it. Because of this, certain people with a particular standard for truth think your claims sound absurd. This combined with the former leaves you with the type of discourse you find to be unpleasant. I hope you understand.
(July 4, 2013 at 8:39 pm)Godschild Wrote: Here's your answer do with it as you wish. I do not use the Bible for science, I use what I consider viable science and evolution is not it, there are scientist who do not believe in a God who do not believe evolution is the answer, very respected scientist at that. The Bible is a spiritual book about life with God and since there is no other about the God of Christians it's the only book you can use in an argument. I do not use the Bible in scientific argument, I do state I'm a creationist.I'm sorry, but when did we start talking about evolution? You are right about the bible being a book for Christians and their God, you are mistaken however when you think that non-Christians will be at all interested in anything your book says though. You can, of course, defend anything you want that's written in the bible, your error comes in when you expect others to read it before recognizing their right to reject it. If you wish to defend the bible, that's fine, but I don't need to read a single sentence of it before I can decide it's not worthy of my attention. If you think otherwise, feel free to convince me, but you won't convince me with circular logic. That's all i'm trying to tell you.