RE: One question for Christians
July 11, 2013 at 3:04 pm
(This post was last modified: July 11, 2013 at 3:05 pm by ronedee.)
(July 11, 2013 at 2:45 pm)Esquilax Wrote:No... that's what YOU say! Where does Jesus/God say He sacrifices Himself to Himself?(July 11, 2013 at 2:38 pm)ronedee Wrote: Jesus did say that: "He & the Father were the same".
So, maybe God Himself paid the price for sin?
But alas, that for the "unbeliever" means nothing either.
It shouldn't mean anything to you guys either: you're essentially admitting that god sacrificed himself, to himself, to allay the consequences of a set of concepts that are only bad because they are offensive to him that a middle of the road sense of empathy and common sense would allow him to simply forgive without the circuitous spectacle.
(July 11, 2013 at 2:45 pm)Esquilax Wrote: What you're describing isn't a sublime sacrifice. It's the contortions of a mind with OCD trying to accomplish a thing in the most indirect, histrionic way possible.
But alas, the believers don't even see this Gordian Knot, let alone the way to cut it.
You don't understand.... so just admit it.
The funny thing for me, is watching atheist squirm over this concept.
Quis ut Deus?