(July 14, 2013 at 12:08 pm)little_monkey Wrote: If the universe wouldn't be deterministic, then it would contain lots of magic as it would not be governed by any laws, and such universe would not be understood under scientific scrutiny.It boggles the mind as to how we might gain knowledge of such a universe using a prediction based system - yes.
Quote:Whether you want to admit or not, but the moment you do science you've already conceeded that it is deterministic. Determinism is a presupposition to any scientific enquiry. It's not something you can prove but it is a starting hypothesis. Scientific theories, scientific models are all based on the notion that the universe is ruled by laws, and therefore it is deterministic. If we know the initial conditions and all the relevant forces, we know exactly how the universe will behave in the future. All scientists have acted under that notion. That's why I said: deny determinism and you deny science.It is difficult to imagine how science "does work" in a non-deterministic universe - yes.
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