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Determinism Is Self Defeating

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RE: Determinism Is Self Defeating

July 19, 2013 at 8:39 am (This post was last modified: July 19, 2013 at 8:39 am by little_monkey.)

(July 19, 2013 at 7:59 am)bennyboy Wrote: Maybe due to a wormhole, which traces a causal link back to the Big Bang, Fluffy was inevitably going to materialise at that moment,

Here you are providing a cause for the magic rabbit, and if the universe functions according to laws, then everything is determined. That basically defeats your own argument.

Quote: but nobody predicted it because "we just lack accurate enough data." All it would prove is that some things cannot possibly be predicted-- which is already the case for almost everything in the universe more complicated than billiard balls, taxes or death.

That also defeats your argument. You're saying, I can't predict because I don't know, which means, if I knew, I would be able to predict.

Good job.

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