(November 18, 2013 at 8:36 am)Kitanetos Wrote:Respectfully, you are wrong.(November 18, 2013 at 7:46 am)Jacob(smooth) Wrote: But it's not strictly true to say it Doesn't work. It depends what you expect from it.
Prayer does not work, ever.
The problem with theists is that when their prayers are not answered they tend to think to themselves that no answer is still an answer.
When something does happen for which they prayed it would, they erroneously attribute the coincidence to a supernatural fairy tale being.
The incident would have transpired the same way it did whether they had prayed or not. Attributing an outcome to prayer is a sign of self-delusion, and nothing more.
Even if you consider prayer to be a pure placebo, with no external validity whatsoever, science does not hold that outcomes following a placebo treatment are the same as they would have been without a placebo treatment as you are staying. The placebo has an effect. It can " work," a high percentage of the time for some things. To say it never works is to oversimplify a complex psychological issue.
"Peace is a lie, there is only passion.
Through passion, I gain strength.
Through strength, I gain power.
Through power, I gain victory.
Through victory, my chains are broken."
Sith code
Through passion, I gain strength.
Through strength, I gain power.
Through power, I gain victory.
Through victory, my chains are broken."
Sith code
