RE: Question about female worth in islam.
November 30, 2013 at 2:01 pm
(This post was last modified: November 30, 2013 at 2:02 pm by WesOlsen.)
(November 30, 2013 at 11:22 am)Nineteen Wrote: Anyway , all of these issues is a separate topic of discussion and you're jumping in another discuss in each different message . This topic about women in Islam . I was a member in http://www.ummah.com and they had insulted me and banned me . I prefer an atheist forum in rather than discuss it such muslims , they are crazy ignorant and close to the learn . I have many times discussed with extremist muslims face to face in France and they said me "you're not muslim you poor girl , get out of here , kaffir zindiq stupid " , they cant discuss with me .
If you dont want to understand I cant do anything more . Today arabic language laws are based on Quranic arabic . Beucase Quran is written with perfect arabic and it was given to Arabs at Arabic literature's most brilliant period . You cant find the slightest contradiction in it , you just think that you find a contradiction in translations .
Salaam ...
You do realise that you've just exposed the major weakness of the Islamic doctrine yourself, that is that people can interpret it in different ways, and that fundamentalists are able to force the most extreme elements to the forefront and suppress other elements. You also realise that the major strength of modern secular legal systems is that they are open to democratic processes and can be UPDATED and IMPROVED over time, in such a way that certain concepts can be expanded and explained in a clear and concise way. Any system that isn't open to change is extremely dangerous, and you've just basically exposed Islam for what it is: an unclear and highly volatile system that not even Muslims can agree on. Even if we pretend that as a women you aren't treated as filth, you've just said yourself that there are many Muslims who want to ban you from websites for being too liberal with your interpretations. Does that not set alarm bells ringing in your head? Would you not prefer a legal and moral code that is adaptable and open to different thoughts, that may be improved over time so that everyone can get the best out of it? Why would you want a sexist medieval system that hasn't changed in several hundred years? That's a BAD thing, not a good thing.
Quote:You cant find the slightest contradiction in it , you just think that you find a contradiction in translations .
But that's simply not true, you CAN discern the main concepts and teachings through translations in to other language, and even if there was some sort of poetic mystery that was lost in translation (which is purely wishful thinking) what about all the ARABIC speakers (Christians, jews and ex-muslims) who find the same contradictions and faults in Islam? It is not infallible, it is full of contradictions just like any text that isn't allowed to be changed or updated.
(June 19, 2013 at 3:23 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: Most Gays have a typical behavior of rejecting religions, because religions consider them as sinners (In Islam they deserve to be killed)
(June 19, 2013 at 3:23 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: I think you are too idiot to know the meaning of idiot for example you have a law to prevent boys under 16 from driving do you think that all boys under 16 are careless and cannot drive properly
