RE: How did the myth of Jesus' resurrection originate?
December 13, 2013 at 11:47 pm
(This post was last modified: December 13, 2013 at 11:51 pm by rightcoaster.)
RE: How did the myth of Jesus' resurrection originate?
(10th December 2013 19:21)
rightcoaster Wrote: ... The time from David to Jesus is pretty nearly 1000 years (the only external "fact" needed). …[O]ne genealogy has ... 50 names, giving an average generational length of 20 yrs. The other genealogy has ... 25 names, giving an average generational length of 40 years. I assumed a standard deviation for generational length of the human population … 7 years, so that 95+% [of the means of samples of generational lengths] would be the true population mean +/- 21 years…. I calculated a t-statistic for the difference of the means of the two samples, and … the odds [are] more than two billion to one against the average generational lengths of the two samples (the two genealogies) being from the same human population.
MG: Great information but I have to say I am a bit confused by your analysis myself….
RC: Indeed, you are confused about the point I was proving, and I apologize for not being clearer. The underlined above is the main conclusion. At least one of the purported genealogies of Jesus (really of Joseph) is false, thus both cannot be true. This gives no way to infer whether both are false, nor which one is false). But since at least one genealogy is demonstrated false, the truth-value all of the rest of the assertions in the gospels must also be doubted.
The notion that every human was related to every other after 50 generations is bogus. Not everyone reproduced, and the gene pool was not spread from royalty to every peasant, no matter how much each king might have tried.
Aren't Daniel and Revelation apocalypse novels, and Esther a novel of some other genre?
(10th December 2013 19:21)
rightcoaster Wrote: ... The time from David to Jesus is pretty nearly 1000 years (the only external "fact" needed). …[O]ne genealogy has ... 50 names, giving an average generational length of 20 yrs. The other genealogy has ... 25 names, giving an average generational length of 40 years. I assumed a standard deviation for generational length of the human population … 7 years, so that 95+% [of the means of samples of generational lengths] would be the true population mean +/- 21 years…. I calculated a t-statistic for the difference of the means of the two samples, and … the odds [are] more than two billion to one against the average generational lengths of the two samples (the two genealogies) being from the same human population.
MG: Great information but I have to say I am a bit confused by your analysis myself….
RC: Indeed, you are confused about the point I was proving, and I apologize for not being clearer. The underlined above is the main conclusion. At least one of the purported genealogies of Jesus (really of Joseph) is false, thus both cannot be true. This gives no way to infer whether both are false, nor which one is false). But since at least one genealogy is demonstrated false, the truth-value all of the rest of the assertions in the gospels must also be doubted.
The notion that every human was related to every other after 50 generations is bogus. Not everyone reproduced, and the gene pool was not spread from royalty to every peasant, no matter how much each king might have tried.
(December 12, 2013 at 12:21 pm)Minimalist Wrote: It is not commonly known but Greek "novels" were a definite genre beginning in the first century and, of course, we can't know what the antecedents were.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Greek_novel
Quote:The Greek novel as a genre began in the first century CE, and flourished in the first four centuries; it is thus a product of the Roman Empire. The exact relationship between the Greek novel and the Latin novels of Petronius and Apuleius is debated, but both Roman writers are thought by most scholars to have been aware of and to some extent influenced by the Greek novels.
Although the plots of the surviving novels appear to be relatively conventional, based around the fulfilled heterosexual desire of a be
Aren't Daniel and Revelation apocalypse novels, and Esther a novel of some other genre?