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How did the myth of Jesus' resurrection originate?
RE: How did the myth of Jesus' resurrection originate?
(December 15, 2013 at 9:43 pm)rightcoaster Wrote: RC: I dunno, nobody can know. And I don't know whether corpse-watching-over was universally done then or ever. Jesus was an executed criminal, it was a holy day, help was scarce or on vacation, so maybe there was a shomer, but maybe/probably not. If anyone was there to watch over the corpse, why did he/she wait to show up until Sunday morning if the body was entombed late Friday afternoon? If a shomer was required/provided/showed up, there could not have been a seal (an implausible story element anyway).

You know 2,000 years after, what can we do to prove such things...but what about in the year 600? If we could roll back time by 1,400 years, it would definitely give a more accurate picture. In my opinion, the best clue that something is VERY wrong with the resurrection is found in the Qur'an, in Surat An-Nisā'4, Verses 157-158 which says:

"And [for] their saying, "Indeed, we have killed the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, the messenger of Allah ." And they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him; but [another] was made to resemble him to them. And indeed, those who differ over it are in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it except the following of assumption. And they did not kill him, for certain."

Put yourself in the shoes of the Muslims who wrote the Qur'an. To make such a strong, definitive and precise affirmation in a book that was meant to last forever, it means that even in the year 600 there was fuckall clues about any of that. I assume the brilliant Muslim scholars who reunited to write the book (before handing it over to Muhammad so he could claim he was illiterate and got it from God), had examined every piece of evidence, every sculpture, every inch of tomb/relics and found NO EVIDENCE of anything or they would NEVER have taken the risk of writing such a thing. Never ever.

Furthermore, the ascension was thrown out of the King James version of the Bible as a fabrication. By whom? Not by Atheists, Muslims or Jews, but by 32 Christian scholars, of the highest eminence, backed up by 50 cooperative denominations, they found it was a fabrication and they threw it out of the (RSV) revised standard version of the Bible. It is nowhere found in the original manuscript.

But if the ascension was an interpolation, and the Muslims of the year 600 are saying none of that happened. It's puzzling really. It's hard for someone to die on a cross in a few hours and we know Jesus was not critically injured or he would have never been able to carry out his cross. It says it wasn't even Jesus...which could work with his statement "Ellay ellay lamassa bahtani" Oh God oh God why has though forsaken ME? Why ME? I've done nothing. It was someone else that should have been here. He never said FAATHER. ABBA. He says my God. We know Jesus adressed god as FAATHER. So he changed idea there.
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RE: How did the myth of Jesus' resurrection originate? - by Ksa - December 15, 2013 at 11:30 pm
RE: How did the myth of Jesus' resurrection originate? - by Ksa - December 15, 2013 at 11:51 pm
RE: How did the myth of Jesus' resurrection originate? - by Ksa - December 16, 2013 at 10:27 am

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