(December 27, 2013 at 4:42 am)agapelove Wrote: John 17:5 And now, Father, glorify me in your own presence with the glory that I had with you before the world existed.
Why the Jews did not understand matters not, what matters is that they didn't understand and that Jesus came up with those twisted phrases trying to fit their understanding.
For the last part, Jesus was in the mind of God and before he was born, God appointed him prophet of the nations! You remember what God told Jeremiah? What did God tell Jeremiah? I KNEW YOU! Before you entered your mother's womb.
So Jesus was glorified in the mind of God, God is energy...ok check, we were all in the mind of God before being born. I was in the mind of God, you were in the mind of God, Jesus was in the mind of God, Hitler was in the mind of God. Before being born, everyone bound by the spirit of God were in the mind of God and after they were born they were? SONS of God.
Where's the problem?