RE: From atheism to Christianity? How so?
January 4, 2014 at 12:47 pm
(This post was last modified: January 4, 2014 at 1:10 pm by Fidel_Castronaut.)
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No, not always.
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Aside from the fact that, you know, electrons are tangible (or at least have direct tangible effects on the world we inhabit):| You need to re-think this point because it's silly.
What idea? you haven't forwarded anything except unsubstantiated claims that are neither unique nor interesting. We've heard all of it before, and it's been debunked countless times before.
Gobbeldygook.
I don't believe you because you make up stuff as you go along. Or, rather, that's how everyone with the ability to utilise critical thought will see it because it's all just one large unsubstantiated claim.
sorry, if you want' to convince us that what you say is true, you need to adhere to our standards of evidence, which is to say, you need to present something more than an 'idea' (??), like something we can analyse and test.
And no, your statement "Because you have not seen it, it is not true" is a red herring and a purposeful attempt to sleight of hand me. I've never 'seen' a black hole, but I know they exist, because the data proves they do.
Praying to a non-descript, non-existent entity ain't nothing like no black hole.
EDIT: And actually, I'm pretty pissed with you for telling me to 'think outside the box'. What? You think that's what you're doing? Well shit, if making crap up is all it takes to make one think that's 'thinking outside the box', then I can go toe to toe with the best of them. I'm writing on an invisible gold laptop in my starship orbiting Rigel V. Lasers set to fun. I can go all day if you can.
(January 4, 2014 at 12:46 pm)RDK Wrote:(January 4, 2014 at 6:30 am)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote: Gobbledygook.
We have no reason to believe that your version of whatever god it is you worship (whatever a god is) is not just another phony with every other deity that has ever been forwarded.
Simply saying 'pray to get what you want', regardless of the parameters and stipulations placed on it, is a cop out. You're getting others to do the leg work when asked for evidence, and then using an attempt at emotional guilt by adhering to some erroneous assumptions about the characters of people you don't even know (you seem smart enough to work them out, I can't be bothered to dissect line by line).
Prayer is simply a way to allow you to think that your personal ego is speaking back to you. "God I want this, god my friends need help" blah blah. So trite. Such little foresight and disregard for others (how would those prayers impact indirectly on others through multiple regressions?) no but I suppose your version of god had it all figured right? Another cop out.
Nobody here will be impressed by your attestation. Got anything else? Like hard , verifiable evidence? If you don't, don't bother replying please , we have enough unsubstantiated claims on here from other theists already, thanks.
Are ideas valuable?
No, not always.
(January 4, 2014 at 12:46 pm)RDK Wrote: Thay have no more tangibility than the electrons swirling about in my head.
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Aside from the fact that, you know, electrons are tangible (or at least have direct tangible effects on the world we inhabit):| You need to re-think this point because it's silly.
(January 4, 2014 at 12:46 pm)RDK Wrote: What If my idea could result in a new invention? Would you like it then? Since my ideas in somthing you can't immediately touch or experience you are trying to invalidate them.
What idea? you haven't forwarded anything except unsubstantiated claims that are neither unique nor interesting. We've heard all of it before, and it's been debunked countless times before.
(January 4, 2014 at 12:46 pm)RDK Wrote: We are dealing in useful concrete ideas with positive results in case you wish to implement them. Think outside the box. Because you have not seen it , it is not true?
Gobbeldygook.
I don't believe you because you make up stuff as you go along. Or, rather, that's how everyone with the ability to utilise critical thought will see it because it's all just one large unsubstantiated claim.
sorry, if you want' to convince us that what you say is true, you need to adhere to our standards of evidence, which is to say, you need to present something more than an 'idea' (??), like something we can analyse and test.
And no, your statement "Because you have not seen it, it is not true" is a red herring and a purposeful attempt to sleight of hand me. I've never 'seen' a black hole, but I know they exist, because the data proves they do.
Praying to a non-descript, non-existent entity ain't nothing like no black hole.
EDIT: And actually, I'm pretty pissed with you for telling me to 'think outside the box'. What? You think that's what you're doing? Well shit, if making crap up is all it takes to make one think that's 'thinking outside the box', then I can go toe to toe with the best of them. I'm writing on an invisible gold laptop in my starship orbiting Rigel V. Lasers set to fun. I can go all day if you can.
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