RE: Debate with a Christian
March 6, 2014 at 8:36 pm
(This post was last modified: March 6, 2014 at 8:42 pm by discipulus.)
(March 6, 2014 at 8:32 pm)whateverist Wrote:(March 6, 2014 at 7:45 pm)discipulus Wrote: How about this for a debate topic:
"Has God raised Jesus from the dead?"
Well that sure inserts some highly suspect stuff right in the question. What God? Jesus the historical person, or, Jesus of whom so many hysterical claims are made?
In my defense of the affirmation of the proposition, I expound upon all matters pertinent to the topic. That is my burden and I will joyfully bear it. I am prepared to do so. Deidre seems to have other issues with the Bible itself which simply would not be pertinent to the topic.
If I can demonstrate that the gospels are reliable and that there are four established facts regarding Jesus of Nazareth all of which are best explained by the resurrection hypothesis, then we have good evidence that Jesus in fact, was God incarnate.
(March 6, 2014 at 8:33 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Sorry, no. The Gospels are not biographies in any meaningful sense of the word. Since they are based on oral tradition,
This is a common misconception. They were not based on oral traditions at all.
If you would like to debate with me regarding this I would love to. As of right now you are third in line.
(March 6, 2014 at 8:33 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: they are more akin to folk tales or hagiographies. They have no supportive independent sources, they aren't a terribly informative source about life in 1st century Judea, and were written long after the events they purport to depict.
Boru
They are actually what historians refer to as "ancient biographies".
Once again, all of this makes for lovely debate. Would you like to debate when I am free?